Xelasnave.1947
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They are still on their way and it may take longer than expected but they will get there.The Universe had a beginning. Otherwise time-travellers would continue traversing for an eternity.
Alex
They are still on their way and it may take longer than expected but they will get there.The Universe had a beginning. Otherwise time-travellers would continue traversing for an eternity.
No doubt the compressed remains of a previous stage of an eternal universe as all here agree the idea of our present stage of the universe is most unlikely to come from nothing unless you introduce magic ...We know that it was much smaller and hotter about 14 billion years ago.
How many years in an eternity?I am no expert on this, but wouldn’t the universe have suffered a total heat death an eternity ago?
I tell you what ...we could make a bet and seeing you are so confident I expect that it could be a big one...I will get my birth certificate etc ready and start planning how to spend my winnings.
Then these posts you read are not there.
Alex
Not as far as I can tell. Also, my parents and my birth certificate both say I was born in the 20th century. How about yours?
That could be interesting. As things stand, you've made an assertion that appears to be plainly contradicted by simple observation.
No.Have you read Gideon's Bible Xelasnave?
I suppose you are correct.I suppose that's just made up is it?
They certainly seem original.These are the conclusions I have drawn.
Well I would have thought my eternal universe is mine in so far as that approach fits neither of the two most popular approaches to cosmology...and of course I am thinking big bang theory and creation by a god.This is why I'm most interested in the thoughts YOU have, not you reciting the thoughts of others,
I never said I thought such a thing but I can tell you that I doubt if humans will exist past another 5 billion years and I base that on the indication we get from astronomy that our Sun has a finite life in its present form and of course it's demise suggests we will die perhaps well before it does...but let me comment on your reasonable observation that many thoughts will change in the future...many no doubt will...history tells us that...religion has changed..once early humans found spirituality in the animals they hunted or observed and changed to Sun worship when the ceased to be hunters and became farmers...and as they became more sophisticated saw gods in the planets, and later still invented many human gods based on the astrology they had invented from watching the night sky.(do you honestly believe that many thoughts will not be disproven in 1000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years?)
I agree but let's face it humans have not been around all that long and their truth will be adjusted as they learn more...As you know I expect humans once thought disease was caused by demons...they knew there was a cause and that being sick was not the normal condition they would expect and so they sort an explanation I guess...and at the time someone thought a demon must be the cause...and of course today we now know that demon is in fact little germs. So those thoughts, reasonable in their day and an attempt to offer a cause have been changed due to our discovery of germs.Truth must be true FOREVER.
Hi Dave, sorry to but in however I must ask what do you know about quantum mechanics /physics do you think that the science sets out a basis that any thing is possible.Not sure what would be interesting, but do you know how much of quantum physics is based on unobserved space, whatever you want to call it.
Once again, do YOU have anything to offer to the conversation, or are you simply going to regurgitate other people's thoughts (that are in fact false?)
I never said I thought such a thing but I can tell you that I doubt if humans will exist past another 5 billion years and I base that on the indication we get from astronomy that our Sun has a finite life in its present form and of course it's demise suggests we will die perhaps well before it does...but let me comment on your reasonable observation that many thoughts will change in the future...many no doubt will...history tells us that...religion has changed..once early humans found spirituality in the animals they hunted or observed and changed to Sun worship when the ceased to be hunters and became farmers...and as they became more sophisticated saw gods in the planets, and later still invented many human gods based on the astrology they had invented from watching the night sky.
I absolutely agree but I was trying to keep it simple for the young fella.Five billion years! Of course anything is possible but since we have only been around 200,000 years or so or no more than 1.5 million possibly if you want to go back to homo erectus, I think we will be gone long before that.
Other than bacteria, I don't think anything has been around for even 1 billion years.
I don't think Earth will even be habitable by humans for another 5 billion years. The Sun continues to get hotter as it burns though its hydrogen so I don't think life will be possible for more than a couple of billion and any one species as complex as man isn't likely to be around for more than a million years if that.
That's not even taking into account collisions from space, nuclear war, etc. My guess would be that it would be less than a few million at best.
I notice, Xelasnave, that you are a Male and your parting is on the right. That's for homosexuals.
Straight males part on the left, straight females on the right.
I made no such addmission.You have written that the Bible is, "made up" yet you admit that you haven't even read it.
How do you connect the writing to Hebrew slaves? And again, are there any other examples of Semitic writing anywhere else?
He went to Midian by himself to avoid murder charges. He married there and had a family. But where does it say he led the Israelites there?The account in the Bible says precisely that Moses went to Midian. And there is evidence on the ground in Saudi Arabia to confirm that as well.
You're making my point. There were Egyptian fortifications all over their empire. Why do you cherry-pick one of them?Wikipedia lists the following...
Sinai
- The Way of Horus coastal forts, Sinai
- Tharu castle, Sinai
- Qantara East fort, Sinai
- Kolsum castle, Suez
- Boto Fort of Seti I, (Qatia area), Sinai.
- Tell-Huba Fortress, Sinai
- Pelusium Fort,
- Tharu city fortifications.
You're shooting yourself in the foot. If there are Semitic writings all over the place, why do you cherry-pick one example to locate the Exodus route?Regarding “anywhere else”?
If you are interested, you could also review the “Brooklyn Papyrus”. It is an Egyptian servant list with 70% of them being Semitic names. Within that list are a few Hebrew names that are also found in the Bible.
Hebrew names from that list include...
Munahhima and Asra, the names of two of the tribes of Israel.
Siprah, one of the Hebrew midwives in the Exodus account.
These are the names of Hebrew slaves and they are written down in an Egyptian document.
Another document for your review, if you wish to, would be the “Ipuwer Papyrus”.
It describes a complex scene that very closely parallels the descriptions given in the Bible for the Plagues of the Exodus, but it is from an Egyptian perspective.