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An interesting feature of the ten incarnations of Vishnu is that the incarnations seem to evolve and grow more sophisticated each time. From Matsya as a common fish to Parasurama, the greatest Brahmin warrior ever, there appears to be a definite progression and evolution.

This really is quite remarkable keeping in view the broader context of growth rom lower to higher organisms.
Interestingly, the only avatar yet to occur is Kalki.
That is if you believe in it.
 
and i wonder if Kalki will be like neo (of Matrix -I and only I! rest us crap!)...

just a thought!...(He will be an average Kid like Neo was potrayed...)
(He could join Rev like Neo did in the movie...)


bye!
 
Kalki signifies destruction. So, we evolve to destroy ourselves. Assuming we are now at Buddha Avatar (The age of Information), the time period between Fish Avatar (the beginning of life on this planet) and today is say 3 Billion years. Then for Kalki to happen...you could guess when....

On the other hand if the time period is reverse exponential and the time period between Krishna Avatar (Agrarian age) and today is only 3000 years, then Kalki can happen in the next 1000 years.

Which puts us the end of the world between 2100 and 3000 AD.
 
Just take a look at the age of Adam's bridge :1,750,000 yrs old.In all possibilities,this was Rama's bridge which he created.So say he was 30 yrs of age then,(assume) which wont a difference anyways,we are talking about 1748000 B.C approximately as the real age of Rama Empire.
Now say if life started 3 million years back.And there were Nine Avatars,so,approximately you have 333,333333.3 years for each avatar.So 1st Avatar was from 3 Billion B.C to 2,666,666,667 B.C.Now 2nd avatar was from : 2,666.666.667 to 2,333,333,334 Billion B.C old ; 3rd Avatar was from 2,333,333,334 B.C to 2,000,000,001 B.C,4th Avatar was from 2,000,000,001 to 1,666,666,668 B.C.;5th avatar from 1,666,666,668 B.C to 1,333,333,335 B.C;6th Avatar from 1,333,333,335 B.C to 1,000,000,002 B.C;7th Avatar from 1,000,000,002 B.C. to 666,666,669 B.C. ;8th Avatar was from 666,666,669 B.C. to 333,333,336 B.C and 9th Avatar from 333,333,336 B.C. to 2 B.C.(recently!) and tenth avatar can come upto what 333,333,333 A.D approximately so we have lots of time left.But these calculations are only valid if there was not time lag between those periods PLUS Each period was equal which is highly unlikely.

But since the Rama's bridge was found to be 1,750,000 B.C. there fore we can say that since 1,750,000 years have passed from 333,333,333 years and there was another avatar in between this period which was Krishna's avatar BTW,so our assumption was wrong about time period of each avatar...krishna's avatar period started from say 1,738,000 B.C and ended in the ice ages...
just some random thoughts...
bye!
 
Sorry,i had assumed some wrong factors...;)
Km please clarify...
as you mentioned
Note: There are 4 ages, or yugas, rotating through time like the 4 seasons: Satya, 1,800,000 yeas long; Dvapar, 1,200,000 years long, Treta, 800,000 years long and Kali, 432,000 years long.
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i was thinking...
  • So,can if total is 4,232,000 years,that means in 4 billions year we can have 1000 Yug Cycles approximately,isnt it?
  • ...now if Rama's was 1,750,000 B.C of age,then and assuming that Treta yug ended at say 1,500,000 B.C.So you have 1,200,000 years of Dvapar Yug,that would mean what 300,000 B.C that was the end of Dvapar Yug,right?
  • That would mean approximately 432,000 years For KALI,so what we have is 132,000 years to go starting from 1 A.D.,therefore we have 130,000 years more to go after this...by which i would be dead at least...;)
bye!
 
Even more so,Take even more weird possibility to test accuracy of this,Sun is what? 5 Billion Years old?right?...

so now if say after 4 billion years,if 1000 Yug Cycles have ended,that would mean at the end of approximately 4 billion years another 1000 would end? so,we can safely assume that at the end where Sun Gets SuperNova,a Yug Cycle would end Approximately? isnt it?...
just a thought...
bye!
 
You guys would simply love this book Journey to the source decoding matrix trilogy. The ancient evolution of the avatars and the age of universe is beautifully described. But the book is not about hindu religion, but about the scientific aspects of upanishads. http://www.matrixjourney.com
 
Ten Avatars do not seem to have any relationship with Yugas. The ten Avatar corresponds more like to the evolution of human specis. I think, the Yugas run separately because in Yugas it is not necessary to kill of the fish or lower level animals. So more like the Yugas could correspond to major ice ages. I have not done that research. Any one go for it....
 
Kalki

i really wonder if we will get to c/meet kalki as they say around 2012......i yet cant wait to c kalki.....
 
kmguru said:
Ten Avatars do not seem to have any relationship with Yugas. The ten Avatar corresponds more like to the evolution of human specis. I think, the Yugas run separately because in Yugas it is not necessary to kill of the fish or lower level animals. So more like the Yugas could correspond to major ice ages. I have not done that research. Any one go for it....
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the ten avatars in discussion
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are lila (or pastime) avatars - its important to remember that these incarnations are eternal,
SB 5.4.14: Being an incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Ṛṣabhadeva was fully independent because His form was spiritual, eternal and full of transcendental bliss.
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and when they wind up one set of pastimes in one particular universe they are appearing in another one - in other words its not appropriate to define them according to chronology

distinct again are yuga avatars (avatars that appear each yuga to establish dharma for the yuga)


SB 11.5.23: In Satya-yuga the Lord is glorified by the names Haḿsa, Suparṇa, Vaikuṇṭha, Dharma, Yogeśvara, Amala, Īśvara, Puruṣa, Avyakta and Paramātmā.
SB 11.5.24: In Tretā-yuga the Lord appears with a red complexion. He has four arms, golden hair, and wears a triple belt representing initiation into each of the three Vedas. Embodying the knowledge of worship by sacrificial performance, which is contained in the Ṛg, Sāma and Yajur Vedas, His symbols are the ladle, spoon and other implements of sacrifice.

SB 11.5.25: In Tretā-yuga, those members of human society who are fixed in religiosity and are sincerely interested in achieving the Absolute Truth worship Lord Hari, who contains within Himself all the demigods. The Lord is worshiped by the rituals of sacrifice taught in the three Vedas.

SB 11.5.26: In Tretā-yuga the Lord is glorified by the names Viṣṇu, Yajña, Pṛśnigarbha, Sarvadeva, Urukrama, Vṛṣākapi, Jayanta and Urugāya.

SB 11.5.27: In Dvāpara-yuga the Supreme Personality of Godhead appears with a dark blue complexion, wearing yellow garments. The Lord's transcendental body is marked in this incarnation with Śrīvatsa and other distinctive ornaments, and He manifests His personal weapons.

SB 11.5.28: My dear King, in Dvāpara-yuga men who desire to know the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the supreme enjoyer, worship Him in the mood of honoring a great king, following the prescriptions of both the Vedas and tantras.
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then there is this interesting quote
SB 11.5.32: In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the names of Kṛṣṇa. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Kṛṣṇa Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions.
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doesn't sound like kalki does it?

... anyway ....

perhaps they can be defined according to chronology, namely the degradation of human society
as far as evolution of the living entity goes, the only scope for it in the vedas is the evolution of the soul as it finds its expression through one of the 4 800 000 species of life (according to their concomitant acts of piety and impiety) in the cycle of birth of death
 
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