Continental Drift Hypothesis

[Fermer05]

Гипотеза дрейфа континентов.

Земная кора на начальных этапах своей эволюции представляла собой кипящую магму, которая со временем начала остывать. Я полагаю, что остывание магмы началось с полюсов.
Затем застывшая магма в виде континентов под действием центробежных сил начала дрейфовать от полюсов к экватору.
После образования континентов также образовались океанические бассейны, в которых начала собираться вода по мере остывания Земли. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
Континенты, плавающие на горячей магме, могли перемещаться с запада на восток под воздействием западного переноса атмосферы — подобно айсбергу в океане.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Айсберг
На заре формирования земной коры, когда осевая скорость и геологическая активность Земли были значительно выше, осадки, переносимые океаническими течениями, могли оседать вблизи групп вулканических островов.
А чем выше осевая скорость Земли, тем выше скорость движения водно-воздушных масс, нутации, прецессии, водоворотов и тем выше мутность воды.
Водовороты, обладая гироскопическими свойствами, также могли участвовать в образовании континентов и океанов.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Большое_Тихоокеанское_мусорное_участок
Возможно, континенты перемещаются от полюсов к экватору не приливной силой, а силой полярного дрейфа. (Polfluchtkraft).
Также континенты могут дрейфовать из-за осевой и орбитальной скорости Земли, осевого и орбитального наклона, нутации и прецессии. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Продолжение: Форум Академгородка Новосибирск. Наука. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Астрономический форум "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

 

[exchemist]

ZZZZzzzzzzz…….

 

[Pinball1970]

Гипотеза дрейфа континентов.

Земная кора на начальных этапах своей эволюции представляла собой кипящую магму, которая со временем начала остывать. Я полагаю, что остывание магмы началось с полюсов.
Затем застывшая магма в виде континентов под действием центробежных сил начала дрейфовать от полюсов к экватору.
После образования континентов также образовались океанические бассейны, в которых начала собираться вода по мере остывания Земли. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
Континенты, плавающие на горячей магме, могли перемещаться с запада на восток под воздействием западного переноса атмосферы — подобно айсбергу в океане.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Айсберг
На заре формирования земной коры, когда осевая скорость и геологическая активность Земли были значительно выше, осадки, переносимые океаническими течениями, могли оседать вблизи групп вулканических островов.
А чем выше осевая скорость Земли, тем выше скорость движения водно-воздушных масс, нутации, прецессии, водоворотов и тем выше мутность воды.
Водовороты, обладая гироскопическими свойствами, также могли участвовать в образовании континентов и океанов.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Большое_Тихоокеанское_мусорное_участок
Возможно, континенты перемещаются от полюсов к экватору не приливной силой, а силой полярного дрейфа. (Polfluchtkraft).
Также континенты могут дрейфовать из-за осевой и орбитальной скорости Земли, осевого и орбитального наклона, нутации и прецессии. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Продолжение: Форум Академгородка Новосибирск. Наука. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Астрономический форум "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

Why in Russian?

 

[billvon]

Why in Russian?

Laziness I suspect.

 

[Olga]

Laziness I suspect.

Вероятно, потому что Новосибирск находится в России. И кстати, там очень сильная научная школа. Возможно, даже круче московской.

 

[Fermer05]

The reason for continental drift.

The earth's crust in the initial stages of its evolution was hot magma, the poles of which began to cool due to a decrease in the axial velocity of the earth.
Then, the cooled magma in the form of continents under the action of centrifugal forces began to drift from the poles to the equator. Also, the continents, floating on hot magma, under the influence of the western transfer of the atmosphere, moved from west to east - like an iceberg in the ocean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg
During the formation of the continents, ocean basins were also formed, in which water began to collect as the earth cooled. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
At the dawn of the formation of the earth's crust, when the axial velocity and geological activity of the earth were much higher, sediments carried by ocean currents could settle near groups of volcanic islands.
And the higher the axial velocity of the earth, the higher the speed of movement of water-air masses, nutation, precession, whirlpools and the higher the turbidity of the water. Whirlpools, having the properties of a gyroscope, could also participate in the formation of continents and oceans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
Perhaps, it is not the tidal force that moves the continents from the poles to the equator, but the polar drift force. Also, the axial and orbital velocity of the earth, the tilt of the axis and orbit, nutation and precession could participate in the drift of the continents. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Continued: Forum of Akademgorodok Novosibirsk. Science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Astronomical forum "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

 

[DaveC426913]

Fermer05's idea is that continents
- formed at the north pole because it was rotating slower there, and
- moved south by the Earth's spinning, like on a carousel, and then
- were blown eastward by... wind.

Continents.

Probably because Novosibirsk is in Russia. And by the way, it has a very strong scientific school.

Maybe fermer 05 would benefit from going there someday ...

 

[TheVat]

I wondered who Fermer was, because the page was showing him as Close05. Love that oh so thorough translate function.

And Sarkus becomes Red, which turns out to be Latvian for red.

moved south by the Earth's spinning, like on a carousel, and then

I'll tell ya what's spinning: Alfred Wegener, in his icy grave.

 

[Pinball1970]

The reason for continental drift.

The earth's crust in the initial stages of its evolution was hot magma, the poles of which began to cool due to a decrease in the axial velocity of the earth.
Then, the cooled magma in the form of continents under the action of centrifugal forces began to drift from the poles to the equator. Also, the continents, floating on hot magma, under the influence of the western transfer of the atmosphere, moved from west to east - like an iceberg in the ocean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg
During the formation of the continents, ocean basins were also formed, in which water began to collect as the earth cooled. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
At the dawn of the formation of the earth's crust, when the axial velocity and geological activity of the earth were much higher, sediments carried by ocean currents could settle near groups of volcanic islands.
And the higher the axial velocity of the earth, the higher the speed of movement of water-air masses, nutation, precession, whirlpools and the higher the turbidity of the water. Whirlpools, having the properties of a gyroscope, could also participate in the formation of continents and oceans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
Perhaps, it is not the tidal force that moves the continents from the poles to the equator, but the polar drift force. Also, the axial and orbital velocity of the earth, the tilt of the axis and orbit, nutation and precession could participate in the drift of the continents. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Continued: Forum of Akademgorodok Novosibirsk. Science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Astronomical forum "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

Apologies, Russian made more sense.

 

[DaveC426913]

I wondered who Fermer was,

He wanders by every few months and posts these weird ideas about continental drift. He talks a lot of what "could" be. Never seems to have any evidence to back up his ideas.

No idea what his education level is, but he certainly fits the bill of "self-taught". Although, even "self-taught" science enthusiasts are capable of getting informed on the existing body of knowledge in their chosen hobby. Not fermer05 though.

 

[exchemist]

He wanders by every few months and posts these weird ideas about continental drift. He talks a lot of what "could" be. Never seems to have any evidence to back up his ideas.

No idea what his education level is, but he certainly fits the bill of "self-taught". Although, even "self-taught" science enthusiasts are capable of getting informed on the existing body of knowledge in their chosen hobby. Not fermer05 though.

Also weird stuff about tides, as I recall. But yeah, none of it makes any sense. In one thread C C and I speculated he could conceivably be a self-deluded product of the new chippy nationalism we are seeing across the globe, trying to establish some kind of alternative "Slavic" (?) science, or something. https://www.sciforums.com/threads/t...explosion-of-water-gases.166098/#post-3718086

But perhaps more likely he's just another nutter.

 

[Fermer05]

The reason for continental drift.
Official group of the Institute of Earth Sciences of SFedU https://vk.com/inozsfedu

The earth's crust in the initial stages of its evolution was hot magma, the poles of which, after a decrease in axial velocity and, as a consequence of the geological activity of the earth, began to cool.
Then, the cooled magma in the form of continents under the action of centrifugal forces began to drift from the poles to the equator.
Also, the continents, floating on hot magma, under the influence of the western transfer of the atmosphere, moved from west to east - like an iceberg in the ocean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg
During the formation of the continents, ocean basins were also formed, in which water began to collect as the earth cooled. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
At the dawn of the formation of the earth's crust, when the axial velocity and geological activity of the earth were much higher, sediments carried by ocean currents could settle near groups of volcanic islands.
And the higher the axial velocity of the earth, the higher the speed of movement of water and air masses, nutation, precession, whirlpools and the higher the turbidity of the water.
Whirlpools, having the properties of a gyroscope, could also participate in the formation of continents and oceans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
The rate of continental drift depends on the Earth's axial and orbital velocity, axial and orbital tilt, nutation and precession.
Continued: Forum On the flagship. https://vmf.net.ru/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2328
Astronomical forum "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

Perhaps, it is not the tidal force that moves the continents from the poles to the equator, but the polar-fugitive force. (Polfluchtkraft).
The southern and northern winds contribute. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

 

[TheVat]

Perhaps, it is not the tidal force that moves the continents from the poles to the equator, but the polar-fugitive force. (Polfluchtkraft).
The southern and northern winds contribute. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Theory and supporting data has moved on quite a bit from Wegener, and plate movement is now seen to be from mantle convection, subduction of crust and other geodynamic forces involving the ductility of the asthenosphere and the relative density of the lithosphere. Centrifugal force is insignificant to the process compared to, say, mantle plumes.

 

[foghorn]

Гипотеза дрейфа континентов.

Земная кора на начальных этапах своей эволюции представляла собой кипящую магму, которая со временем начала остывать. Я полагаю, что остывание магмы началось с полюсов.
Затем застывшая магма в виде континентов под действием центробежных сил начала дрейфовать от полюсов к экватору.
После образования континентов также образовались океанические бассейны, в которых начала собираться вода по мере остывания Земли. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
Континенты, плавающие на горячей магме, могли перемещаться с запада на восток под воздействием западного переноса атмосферы — подобно айсбергу в океане.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Айсберг
На заре формирования земной коры, когда осевая скорость и геологическая активность Земли были значительно выше, осадки, переносимые океаническими течениями, могли оседать вблизи групп вулканических островов.
А чем выше осевая скорость Земли, тем выше скорость движения водно-воздушных масс, нутации, прецессии, водоворотов и тем выше мутность воды.
Водовороты, обладая гироскопическими свойствами, также могли участвовать в образовании континентов и океанов.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Большое_Тихоокеанское_мусорное_участок
Возможно, континенты перемещаются от полюсов к экватору не приливной силой, а силой полярного дрейфа. (Polfluchtkraft).
Также континенты могут дрейфовать из-за осевой и орбитальной скорости Земли, осевого и орбитального наклона, нутации и прецессии. https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html

Продолжение: Форум Академгородка Новосибирск. Наука. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Астрономический форум "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

I’m not sure that’s right?
Back in the old days, the very old days that is.
Back then, every animal and fish was big, bigger than the big dinosaurs and the big fishy things they still dig up now and again in some places.

It so happens, that the big, very big, fishy creatures were short sighted and often bumped into the continents, resulting in said continents being knocked about some (Continental drift) and shaking over the big, very big, land creatures.

This went on for eons and eons and after a time, the big, very big, land creatures via natural selection got smaller and smaller (lower centre of gravity more stable).

Why don’t we find the fossil bones of the big, very big land creatures, well they were so big, very big, that when they fell over (because of all that knocking about), their bones turned to fragments and dust when hitting the ground from such great, very great heights as was their stature.
When in Rome.

 

[exchemist]

I’m not sure that’s right?
Back in the old days, the very old days that is.
Back then, every animal and fish was big, bigger than the big dinosaurs and the big fishy things they still dig up now and again in some places.

It so happens, that the big, very big, fishy creatures were short sighted and often bumped into the continents, resulting in said continents being knocked about some (Continental drift) and shaking over the big, very big, land creatures.

This went on for eons and eons and after a time, the big, very big, land creatures via natural selection got smaller and smaller (lower centre of gravity more stable).

Why don’t we find the fossil bones of the big, very big land creatures, well they were so big, very big, that when they fell over (because of all that knocking about), their bones turned to fragments and dust when hitting the ground from such great, very great heights as was their stature.
When in Rome.

When in Colney Hatch, you mean.

 

[foghorn]

When in Colney Hatch, you mean.

I had to look that one up.
In the south they use to say Cane Hill.

 

[exchemist]

I had to look that one up.
In the south they use to say Cane Hill.

I didn’t know that one.

 

[Fermer05]

The area of the continents of the Southern Hemisphere is much smaller than that of the Northern Hemisphere, due to the fact that Antarctica has not entirely moved to the equator.

 

[DaveC426913]

Perhaps because Antarctica did not all move toward the equator, fewer continents formed in the Southern Hemisphere.

Other than mere musing about possibilities, do you have any evidence that indicates any of this might be true?

We do have quite a bit of conrete evidence that that is not the way the continents formed.

 

[Fermer05]

The reason for continental drift.
Official group of the Institute of Earth Sciences of SFedU https://vk.com/inozsfedu

The earth's crust in the initial stages of its evolution was hot magma, the poles of which, after a decrease in axial velocity and, as a consequence of the geological activity of the earth, began to cool.
Then, the cooled magma in the form of continents under the action of centrifugal forces began to drift from the poles to the equator.
Also, the continents, floating on hot magma, under the influence of the western transfer of the atmosphere, moved from west to east - like an iceberg in the ocean.
Because Antarctica has not all moved toward the equator, the total area of the continents of the Southern Hemisphere is much smaller than that of the Northern Hemisphere. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg
During the formation of the continents, ocean basins were also formed, in which water began to collect as the earth cooled. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift
At the dawn of the formation of the earth's crust, when the axial velocity and geological activity of the earth were much higher, sediments carried by ocean currents could settle near groups of volcanic islands.
And the higher the axial velocity of the earth, the higher the speed of movement of water and air masses, nutation, precession, whirlpools and the higher the turbidity of the water.
Whirlpools, having the properties of a gyroscope, could also participate in the formation of continents and oceans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
The rate of continental drift depends on the Earth's axial and orbital velocity, axial and orbital tilt, nutation and precession.
Perhaps, it is not the tidal force that moves the continents from the poles to the equator, but the polar-fugitive force. (Polfluchtkraft). https://www.gemp.ru/article/11.html
The constant polar southern and northern winds also contribute to the continental drift.

Continued: Forum On the flagship. https://vmf.net.ru/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2328
Astronomical forum "AstroTalk". https://astrotalk.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510

And today, polar winds, reaching tens of kilometers per hour, move huge icebergs towards the equator.