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foghorn

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Hi and goodbye

I have recently been having trouble reading posts and quotes within those posts, because of the colour in quote box and post colour background are almost the same to me.
This means I get confused when quotes are used without the person being quoted named, and I lose the flow of the post. My sight is not perfect.
I have been around the houses for extensions and fiddling with contrast on my PC to no avail.
So, instead of getting frustrated at not enjoying the site, I’m leaving.
I was nimbus, sweetpea and foghorn but NEVER used them simultaneously, just lost the password for each and so just started as another person.

That’s it folks.
 
Hi and goodbye

I have recently been having trouble reading posts and quotes within those posts, because of the colour in quote box and post colour background are almost the same to me.
This means I get confused when quotes are used without the person being quoted named, and I lose the flow of the post. My sight is not perfect.
I have been around the houses for extensions and fiddling with contrast on my PC to no avail.
So, instead of getting frustrated at not enjoying the site, I’m leaving.
I was nimbus, sweetpea and foghorn but NEVER used them simultaneously, just lost the password for each and so just started as another person.

That’s it folks.
What a shame. You have been a dose of sanity and I have much appreciated your smoking out of various trolls and sock puppets.

Live long and prosper.
 
Ditto. Very sorry to see you leave, foghorn.

It's a pity that there is no user preferences option you can use to modify the forum colour scheme. Potentially a problem for colour blind people too, I imagine. I would consider making a global change, but that's above my pay grade here (not that I'm paid...)

Thank you for all your contributions to the forum. You've often been a voice of reason who has held the trolls to account, as exchemist said.

Best wishes for the future.
 
Hi and goodbye

I have recently been having trouble reading posts and quotes within those posts, because of the colour in quote box and post colour background are almost the same to me.
This means I get confused when quotes are used without the person being quoted named, and I lose the flow of the post. My sight is not perfect.
I have been around the houses for extensions and fiddling with contrast on my PC to no avail.
So, instead of getting frustrated at not enjoying the site, I’m leaving.
I was nimbus, sweetpea and foghorn but NEVER used them simultaneously, just lost the password for each and so just started as another person.

That’s it folks.
That's a loss. A good poster. If it gets fixed the guys can contact you?
Not sure if James can look into that with those upstairs?

Take care
 
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when i hold the mouse/curser over print in the quotes box, then press the left button, then slide...
all of the background turns blue and the print turns white

some days, it's easier to read that way.
 
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Noo! You have been a solid contributor. Don't go. We'll help you sort it out!

This is a simple fix. Your PC has built-in accessibility settings that override the browser and forum display settings for users just like you.
 
[...] If it gets fixed the guys can contact you? [...]

Probably akin to waiting over a decade for the grey coloured hyperlinks to be "fixed". They at least turn blue now when hovered over, but it's still difficult to discern what is one if they're not underlined, boldened, etc.
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Noo! You have been a solid contributor. Don't go. We'll help you sort it out!

This is a simple fix. Your PC has built-in accessibility settings that override the browser and forum display settings for users just like you.

There are also "dark mode" browser apps that can be installed that clearly cause a bright outline around the quoted text. But which are probably unavailable if a pad or smartphone is instead being used by some.

It's insane that a forum primarily visited by seniors does not offer customizing for vision enhancement. That includes a dark background option to prevent that glaring white from wearying the eyes.
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Noo! You have been a solid contributor. Don't go. We'll help you sort it out!

This is a simple fix. Your PC has built-in accessibility settings that override the browser and forum display settings for users just like you.
I only just discovered these accessibility settings today! The trackpad on my ancient (~15 year old) MacBook started misbehaving after I spewed coffee all over the keypad. A bolt slipped out of my rocking/gliding chair (How do people even sit in chairs that don't rock? I've never understood that.) setting off a domino effect of "incidents."

Anyhow, I got a bluetooth mouse working, but I had to disable the trackpad, as well, as it was just randomly clicking, zooming, closing tabs... Funnily, you cannot disable the trackpad via the trackpad settings in system preferences. After an embarrassingly long while, I discovered the accessibility settings which for some reason offers the only way for disabling the trackpad.

For this issue, the display menu with accessibility settings offers more alternatives.
 
Noo! You have been a solid contributor. Don't go. We'll help you sort it out!

This is a simple fix. Your PC has built-in accessibility settings that override the browser and forum display settings for users just like you.
Which settings? (For Windows or Mac?) Can you briefly summarise the fix? I'm sure foghorn would be grateful.
 
Hi and goodbye

I have recently been having trouble reading posts and quotes within those posts, because of the colour in quote box and post colour background are almost the same to me.
This means I get confused when quotes are used without the person being quoted named, and I lose the flow of the post. My sight is not perfect.
I have been around the houses for extensions and fiddling with contrast on my PC to no avail.
So, instead of getting frustrated at not enjoying the site, I’m leaving.
I was nimbus, sweetpea and foghorn but NEVER used them simultaneously, just lost the password for each and so just started as another person.

That’s it folks.
Just noticed this thread... an I must say... of all the socks I have guessed at... the foghorn/sweetpea conection is likely the only one I got right :)
 
Which settings? (For Windows or Mac?) Can you briefly summarise the fix? I'm sure foghorn would be grateful.
Sorry. It's just general system accessibility / high contrast settings. Hard to say which oens will work without knowing specific OS, version, browser etc.
 
I also enjoy reading Foghorn's posts and would think it a shame if he left over something so easily fixable.

All he needs is a few lines of CSS code - so no javascript, or anything else that might be "dangerous."

I took the liberty of writing the basics to allow for changing the quote box background and foreground (text) colors along with the font size. The code is nearly self explanatory, I did add a few sparse comments that I thought might help.

Once you take a look at the code I am quite sure anyone here will see how to change the quote colors to any flavor they like. All you need is the hex codes for the colors you want, just google "hex red," for example.

With CSS in hand, the only other requirement is a browser extension to inject it, there are scores available. I use this one on my Chrome based browsers: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/user-javascript-and-css/nbhcbdghjpllgmfilhnhkllmkecfmpld

As I said, there are many others available, look for them here - search "CSS injection":

Chrome based browsers: https://chromewebstore.google.com
Firefox based browsers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/extensions

Firefox also offers a native method for doing this (the injection part), you can Google for instructions if you prefer this route.

The user has nearly absolute control over the colors, sizes and layouts of every element on a website using this method - you can rearrange, recolor and resize Sci anyway you like. The only limit is no changes to function, that would require javascript, so you can't alter the action of buttons and so forth.

Accomplishment of the initial phase, giving control over the colors and font sizes of the quote boxes, should take no more than 20 minutes of foghorn's time - start to finish.

Naturally, these effects are local to the specific browser only, nothing whatsoever happens server side (to Sci's site). To me, this is obvious and I would have left it unsaid, save for the fact that nobody has posted this extremely simple, noninvasive solution - perhaps CSS is not quite the common knowledge I would have expected it to be amongst the members.

To that end, here are a couple of links to background information on CSS and browser injection:


My apologies for the video, it was the only introductory level resource I was able to quickly locate with a google search on "CSS injection into a browser."

foghorn - let me know if you have any questions - my time is somewhat limited, but I will be happy to assist with any other needs you may have on this project, to the extent that I can...



CSS Code (copy & paste everything between the --- lines in the CSS box of your extension):

--------------------------------

/* This modifies the background color of the quote box */
.bbCodeBlock.bbCodeBlock {
background: #280000; /* burgundy */
}

/* This modifies the color of the quoted text */
.block--messages .message.message, .block--messages .block-row.block-row {
color: #fffacb; /* light yellow */
}

/* This modifies the font size of the quote */
.bbCodeBlock.bbCodeBlock--quote.bbCodeBlock--quote .bbCodeBlock-content.bbCodeBlock-content {
font-size: 16px; /* the default is 13px */
}

/* This modifies the quote title element */
.bbCodeBlock-title.bbCodeBlock-title {
font-size: 16px; /* the default is 13px */
color: #fffacb; /* light yellow */
background: #002800; /* dark green */
}

--------------------------------

Edited to add screenshot.

It occurred to me that it might be helpful to provide a screenshot of the CSS in action - I have dark mode turned on, so the rest of the site (other than the quotes) may appear differently in your browsers. I just picked a random thread to screenshot...

Sci colors.png
 
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I was thinking of the built-in accessibility enhancements in all modern OSs. This is a sample of mine in Win 11.

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Foghorn is posting on the intelligent design thread so hopefully he has found some sort of work around.
Yes, I'm back and I have sort of found a work around.
Is it me, or has the name in the QUOTE box turned BLUE? It seems to have happened whilst I was on this site. First it was the usual black then next it was a blue?? Yes that does help.
Btw I notice this site as the same platform model as Mick West's site, https://www.metabunk.org/whats-new/. That is' XenForo'
Now, Mick as it that the Quote boxes have a blue line running down the left side of the box. I wonder if that's possible here.
 
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I also enjoy reading Foghorn's posts and would think it a shame if he left over something so easily fixable.

All he needs is a few lines of CSS code - so no javascript, or anything else that might be "dangerous."

I took the liberty of writing the basics to allow for changing the quote box background and foreground (text) colors along with the font size. The code is nearly self explanatory, I did add a few sparse comments that I thought might help.

Once you take a look at the code I am quite sure anyone here will see how to change the quote colors to any flavor they like. All you need is the hex codes for the colors you want, just google "hex red," for example.

With CSS in hand, the only other requirement is a browser extension to inject it, there are scores available. I use this one on my Chrome based browsers: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/user-javascript-and-css/nbhcbdghjpllgmfilhnhkllmkecfmpld

As I said, there are many others available, look for them here - search "CSS injection":

Chrome based browsers: https://chromewebstore.google.com
Firefox based browsers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/extensions

Firefox also offers a native method for doing this (the injection part), you can Google for instructions if you prefer this route.

The user has nearly absolute control over the colors, sizes and layouts of every element on a website using this method - you can rearrange, recolor and resize Sci anyway you like. The only limit is no changes to function, that would require javascript, so you can't alter the action of buttons and so forth.

Accomplishment of the initial phase, giving control over the colors and font sizes of the quote boxes, should take no more than 20 minutes of foghorn's time - start to finish.

Naturally, these effects are local to the specific browser only, nothing whatsoever happens server side (to Sci's site). To me, this is obvious and I would have left it unsaid, save for the fact that nobody has posted this extremely simple, noninvasive solution - perhaps CSS is not quite the common knowledge I would have expected it to be amongst the members.

To that end, here are a couple of links to background information on CSS and browser injection:


My apologies for the video, it was the only introductory level resource I was able to quickly locate with a google search on "CSS injection into a browser."

foghorn - let me know if you have any questions - my time is somewhat limited, but I will be happy to assist with any other needs you may have on this project, to the extent that I can...



CSS Code (copy & paste everything between the --- lines in the CSS box of your extension):

--------------------------------

/* This modifies the background color of the quote box */
.bbCodeBlock.bbCodeBlock {
background: #280000; /* burgundy */
}

/* This modifies the color of the quoted text */
.block--messages .message.message, .block--messages .block-row.block-row {
color: #fffacb; /* light yellow */
}

/* This modifies the font size of the quote */
.bbCodeBlock.bbCodeBlock--quote.bbCodeBlock--quote .bbCodeBlock-content.bbCodeBlock-content {
font-size: 16px; /* the default is 13px */
}

/* This modifies the quote title element */
.bbCodeBlock-title.bbCodeBlock-title {
font-size: 16px; /* the default is 13px */
color: #fffacb; /* light yellow */
background: #002800; /* dark green */
}

--------------------------------

Edited to add screenshot.

It occurred to me that it might be helpful to provide a screenshot of the CSS in action - I have dark mode turned on, so the rest of the site (other than the quotes) may appear differently in your browsers. I just picked a random thread to screenshot...
Thank you for spending time on this, and you DaveC. I have been mucking around with those things and got something I'm kind of happy with.
Thanks all for your time.
That blue names thing is a great help.
 
Yes, I'm back and I have sort of found a work around.
Is it me, or has the name in the QUOTE box turned BLUE? It seems to have happened whilst I was on this site. First it was the usual black then next it was a blue?? Yes that does help.
Btw I notice this site as the same platform model as Mick West's site, https://www.metabunk.org/whats-new/. That is' XenForo'
Now, Mick as it that the Quote boxes have a blue line running down the left side of the box. I wonder if that's possible here.

late edit: Call me Hawkeye, I have just noticed we do now have a Dark line running down the leftside of the quote box. I ilke that too.
Now that the line is there and light blue background, I'm not too picky now with the colour of the name.
 
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Is it me, or has the name in the QUOTE box turned BLUE? It seems to have happened whilst I was on this site. First it was the usual black then next it was a blue?? Yes that does help.
Seems to be a style update. (article.message-body a {} and .bbCodeBlock {})
I must retract my cynical comment that such minor things won't get fixed.
 
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