Yes. Either that or you aren't smart enough to know what's happening. Funny how you're insulting my intelligence but all i did was point you making things up. Lashing out emotionally when told your mistaken isn't a sign of intelligence buddy. If you have such a distaste for being called a liar perhaps you shouldn't say obvious bs.
Charlie Kirk Shot in Utah
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So, after Turnip 2.0 decried the extremist Leftists for murdering his friend, and after lowering flags to half-mast, and saying that the victim would be posthumously awarded the Medal of Freedom, he was recently asked on two separate occasions how he was personally coping with the death of his "friend". Turnip's response was that work was now underway on the new White House ballroom.
Yeah. So he's done the fake outrage, earnt the political capital from it that he can, and now he's moved on to (imo) ruining the iconic look of the most famous building in the US.
Is it already a case of "Charlie who?"
Yeah. So he's done the fake outrage, earnt the political capital from it that he can, and now he's moved on to (imo) ruining the iconic look of the most famous building in the US.
Is it already a case of "Charlie who?"
Wizard of Whatever
Registered Senior Member
You called me a liar, so I insulted your intelligence. Tit for tat and you're still calling me a liar. I know exactly what's happening. You don't know what emotion or lashing out is if you think that's what this is. Haven't done that for decades.
But the fact is you are the one who is mistaken and still insulting me. It is the same with all you one-sided ones, your view is correct and any other is lying or stupid.
By the way, I am not your buddy.
And all of a year ago she hosted National Review editor Rich Lowry so they could complain about migration and laugh about niggers↗.
Now, personal experience varies, of course, but perhaps you might recall at some point in your life meeting some sort of skeptic whose response to religious people or crackpots was to simply ask them to explain what they're talking about. You know, if God, then prove God, or something like that.
In politics, though, such expectations are looked at as if someone is trying to shut down a discussion: Don't ask how it works, that might shut down the discussion.
Can you imagine, though, if over, say, the last twenty-five years or so, people were able to address supremacism and bigotry with the same expectation of legitimacy they pretended for God?
And you're actually someone I can ask: How does asking someone to explain their argument shut down a discussion? Especially when part of the purpose of discourse is to explain and justify such arguments.
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Well, we wouldn't want to shut down discussion by expecting you to be capable of discussing; that would be unfair.
But since you're posting AI-grade vapidity with no apparent clue about the history you're referring to, yeah, it kind of does look, and rather convincingly, like you're making it up as you go.
TheVat
Valued Senior Member
When someone asks for underlying evidence and logic, that does seem like something foundational to real discourse. And if your interlocutor reacts to such a request as if it's shutting down discussion then either they are simply evading (probably the usual reason) or they feel they have already provided the full explanation that is possible.
I wouldn't think asking for an explanation could be fairly seen as shutting down discussion, unless it was a case of the request itself somehow forming a leading question. E.g. "Can you explain why you are still beating your dog?" If they never beat their dog, then that request would be seen as dishonest. And politics, I think we can agree, involves a lot of such leading questions. Why has Joe Biden opened our borders to criminals? Why are Democrats letting perverts groom their children? Why do [enter opposition group here] hate America. Etc. IOW, it's not the "why" of honest seeking of explanations, but rather a rhetorical jab.
Goodbye First Amendment *
In addition to "canceling" anyone who dares to besmirch Charlie Kirk, we have moved to "Do not insult MAGA" - the Fuehrer will be upset.
ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after remarks about Charlie Kirk
Disney’s ABC is taking Jimmy Kimmel’s late night talk show off the air indefinitely...
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During his Monday evening monologue, Kimmel said the MAGA movement was trying to score political points by trying to prove that Kirk’s alleged killer, Tyler Robinson, was not one of its own.
“The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. “In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.”
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Unless there is more to this, we have officially passed the red line.
While I don't agree, I can at least (kind of) understand "Don't speak ill of the dead."
This is different... As far as I can tell, Kimmel in no way insulted Charlie Kirk - just MAGA.
We need to be very careful, even on here, at least Americans must. Losing your job is just the beginning....
* This topic deserves its own thread, I'm just too lazy to accept the responsibility of starting it.
In addition to "canceling" anyone who dares to besmirch Charlie Kirk, we have moved to "Do not insult MAGA" - the Fuehrer will be upset.
ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after remarks about Charlie Kirk
Disney’s ABC is taking Jimmy Kimmel’s late night talk show off the air indefinitely...
...
During his Monday evening monologue, Kimmel said the MAGA movement was trying to score political points by trying to prove that Kirk’s alleged killer, Tyler Robinson, was not one of its own.
“The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. “In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.”
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Unless there is more to this, we have officially passed the red line.
While I don't agree, I can at least (kind of) understand "Don't speak ill of the dead."
This is different... As far as I can tell, Kimmel in no way insulted Charlie Kirk - just MAGA.
We need to be very careful, even on here, at least Americans must. Losing your job is just the beginning....
* This topic deserves its own thread, I'm just too lazy to accept the responsibility of starting it.
Wow. I honestly don't even know how to react to this. The quoted portion--Kimmel's words, that is--is the alleged "controversial" portion that got Kimmel shelved? Just that?. This is mind-blowing.
Yes. So far as I can tell, that's it. I looked, but this is the only thing I can find cited. Just wow - this is happening very quickly now.
Wizard of Whatever:
What's your IQ, and how was that determined?
You should support your claims with evidence.
How did you estimate geordief's probable IQ?
What's your IQ, and how was that determined?
You should support your claims with evidence.
Totally Not "Cancel Culture"
Meanwhile, Attiah has been fired from WaPo↱ for quoting Charlie Kirk on black women; and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN05)↱ notes: "Fun fact: Nancy Mace is trying to censure me over comments I never said. Her res does not contain a single quote from me because she couldn’t find any."
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Notes:
Attiah, Karen. "The Washington Post Fired Me — But My Voice Will Not Be Silenced." The Golden Hour. 15 September 2025. KarenAttiah.Substack.com. 17 September 2025. https://karenattiah.substack.com/p/the-washington-post-fired-me-but
Meanwhile, Attiah has been fired from WaPo↱ for quoting Charlie Kirk on black women; and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN05)↱ notes: "Fun fact: Nancy Mace is trying to censure me over comments I never said. Her res does not contain a single quote from me because she couldn’t find any."
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Notes:
Attiah, Karen. "The Washington Post Fired Me — But My Voice Will Not Be Silenced." The Golden Hour. 15 September 2025. KarenAttiah.Substack.com. 17 September 2025. https://karenattiah.substack.com/p/the-washington-post-fired-me-but
Wizard of Whatever
Registered Senior Member
This is unacceptable and what was said was in no way any kind of hate speech or denigration of Kirk.
And now thirteen wounded in twelve hours by two shootings targeting homeless people in Minneapolis.
Maybe this will turn out to be the transgender shooter.
Wizard of Whatever
Registered Senior Member
It was a form of sarcasm.
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Wizard of Whatever
Registered Senior Member
Just tell me know the rule on sarcasm. Can't find it in your rule book.
Not tit for tat. I called you a liar because you are well lying. You insulted me because you didn't like your lies being called out. I very much doubt you have the faintest idea of what's going on given your claiming to have witnessed things that very much haven't happened. Yes you insulting me for calling out your lies is an emotional response. You are still lying. I get it, I'd be mad to if I was lying and people dismissed my lies out of hand. Difference between us I won't lie so casually.
I'm not mistaken. You made a claim that was objectively false. I called you on it and then you started in with personal attacks and have now repeated the delusion that you are justified in doing so because I had the audacity to call out your falsehoods. Once again if being called a liar provokes such an emotion response from you( yes this hissy fit is an emotional response) I would suggest you endeavor to not lie.
True you aren't my buddy I don't consort with liars.
Wizard of Whatever
Registered Senior Member
Go to the optometrist and get some glasses so you can look in the mirror and see yourself. Then turn around so you can see reality.
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and once again all you can do is give into your base emotional responses and insult.
News flash pumpkin people who aren't lying typical response to the suggestion they aren't being truthful is to provide evidence not throw a temper tantrum and insult people.
Lets be honest. The real reason your so upset is I'm not playing the game you want and debating you and treating you like you're acting in good faith. I'm just calling out your bad faith statement and leaving it at that.
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