Proposal: capitalism and how the economy works

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The biscuit has risen
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I would like norse to take up my challenge see he thinks he knows so much about them. I propose a debate between him and I to debate how to construct a system to get the most out of the market based on the tenets of capitalism and basic macroeconomics.

format is
1 post= opening argument/statement
5 posts= arguments/premises
5 posts= counter arguments to opponents arguments
1 post= closing argument/statement

Either you want me to discuss capitalism or economics. They're both entirely separate subjects.

One is political philosophy and deals in principles and morals; the other is just economics.
Pj, Norsefire is right, it is not really clear what you are trying to debate/accomplish here.

My guess that you are trying to come up with a perfect capitalist system, but that doesn't necessery mean a debate, it could mean just throwing around a few ideas. Norsefire might agree with you on those.
Capitalism is an economic system closely associated with a political philosophy. It is to be discussed as part of economics discourse, so it is not quite separate.
I don't think capitalism is a moral system, no matter which way you cut it. In capitalism, profits and doing business is more important than people's lives. 30,273 children die every day because of the unjust wealth distribution created by the system.

Capitalism also needs a huge government and too strict immigration controls because the workers want to save their jobs and demand increased salaries from their employers while the employers want to profit and reduce costs. This results in increased job cuts for many people (because there is a increasing demand for jobs but less supply because employers want to profit) and the closing of international borders (strict immigration controls).

How can all this be justified?
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