DaveC426913
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No. The term matter is confined to the things that do have mass.Some matter hs no mass (photons,gluons and gravitons if confirmed)
Photons, gluons and gravitons are all bosons.
No. The term matter is confined to the things that do have mass.Some matter hs no mass (photons,gluons and gravitons if confirmed)
I'm sorry but what you have is an idea, not a model. There's nothing to back it up but word salad. You're even having trouble describing basic physics concepts such as "space" and "infinite speed". You're trying to run before learning to walk.Дэйв, у меня есть модель, которая объясняет многое из того, что считается необъяснимым.
TranslationСэр, вы можете посмотреть мои посты 149, 156, 166, в которых я вкратце описала свою модель Джеймсу. Если конечно вам это интересно. Там есть ответы на все ваши вопросы.
Рсздел называется "Альтернативные теории". Вопрос: "What if there is only one type of particle but its physical properties change depending on which field it is interacting with? "Translation
"Sir, you can see my posts 149, 156, 166 in which I briefly described my model to James. If of course you are interested.
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There are answers to all your questions"
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There are just 60 posts in this thread and so I don't know where are your " posts 149, 156, 166
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I am not aware of any evidence that shows that space is made of something. As I understand it, space is not a substance. It is the emptiness that objects move in. Or, to put it in simple terms, it is the thing that stops everything from being in the same place.Olga said:I consider space to be matter that is not localized.
I'm not sure if this is a translation problem, but are you saying that you think space is like a particle (e.g. an electron or a photon), but it is particle that somehow moves at infinite speed? Does that mean your "space particle" is everywhere at once?I am interested in considering a model in which space is formed by a single point moving at an absolute infinite speed.
How do you know it exists, then?Thus, this point is everywhere and nowhere in particular at the same time.
It sounds like you might be thinking of something like a quantum superposition, but quantum particles are not really "everywhere and nowhere in particular at the same time". We can calculate the probability that a quantum particle will be found in a certain location, for example.We get the combination 01, absence - presence.
What are the observable consequences of the discreteness of your "space point"?There is discreteness, although it is one point.
Are you aware that the big bang theory does not suggest that the universe was compressed to infinity? It also says nothing about the universe being "stationary" at any time. (Stationary relative to what?)I just want to consider a model in which the universe did not arise from something stationary and compressed to infinity...
The big bang theory does not say that, at some time, space turned into particles (matter etc.)... which then began to move and became discrete...
What? Are you saying that your infinitely-fast point can collide with itself? Why isn't it doing that all the time?but on the contrary, there is something moving simultaneously in all possible directions (let's call it a point), and where this point collides with itself, it stops, and we have already localized matter that becomes definable for us.
We describe what we can observe, certainly.We receive matter already visible to us, accessible to our perception.
How do they do that? What's the mechanism? Do you have a mathematical description?The primordial particles that make up all the rest of the matter visible to us.
Джеймс, мы же говорим о первичном пространстве, из которого произошла наша Вселенная. Хотя, по сути, она локализовалась мгновенно. Т.е. сразу везде, и мы получили вакуум (который вы называете пустотой), и видимую материю. Это событие произошло единожды, почему вы считаете, что оно должно происходить постоянно? Как дальше всё развивалось я вам уже объясняла.Olga:
I am not aware of any evidence that shows that space is made of something. As I understand it, space is not a substance. It is the emptiness that objects move in. Or, to put it in simple terms, it is the thing that stops everything from being in the same place.
I'm not sure if this is a translation problem, but are you saying that you think space is like a particle (e.g. an electron or a photon), but it is particle that somehow moves at infinite speed? Does that mean your "space particle" is everywhere at once?
Can we detect this particle or "point"?
Also, how does "infinite speed" work? Nothing I know of travels at infinite speed.
How do you know it exists, then?
It sounds like you might be thinking of something like a quantum superposition, but quantum particles are not really "everywhere and nowhere in particular at the same time". We can calculate the probability that a quantum particle will be found in a certain location, for example.
What are the observable consequences of the discreteness of your "space point"?
What observations of space will allow us to distinguish your theory from the one that says that space is emptiness?
Are you aware that the big bang theory does not suggest that the universe was compressed to infinity? It also says nothing about the universe being "stationary" at any time. (Stationary relative to what?)
The big bang theory does not say that, at some time, space turned into particles (matter etc.)
What? Are you saying that your infinitely-fast point can collide with itself? Why isn't it doing that all the time?
And what makes it turn into other particles (e.g. electrons or photons) when it collides with itself?
We describe what we can observe, certainly.
How do they do that? What's the mechanism? Do you have a mathematical description?
Thats new. We weren't talking about pre-Big Bang.James, we are talking about the primordial space from which our Universe originated.
This sounds like speculation rather than fact.Although, in fact, it was localized instantly.
Do you really think you are in a position to "explain" Big Bang Cosmology to anyone - let alone James R?I have already explained to you how everything developed further.
Здесь просто нужно определиться с терминами. Первичное пространство, и пространство в его нынешнем виде. Ну по крайней мере в этом варианте нам не нужно придумывать никакие "костыли" типа инфляции, или ещё чего-нибудь. Ничего никуда не расширялось, а возникло сразу везде в его нынешнем размере(вернее будет сказать - безразмерности).Thats new. We weren't talking about pre-Big Bang.
We do not know what preceded the Big Bang butvits unlikely to have been space as we know it.
The Big Bang was not an expansion in space, it was an expansion of space - i.e. there was no space before it.
This sounds like speculation rather than fact.
Do you really think you are in a position to "explain" Big Bang Cosmology to anyone - let alone James R?
It's not a model. It's still just word salad. There's nothing to refute.Нам ещё многое нужно понять, и "БВ" не предел.
Дэйв, а вы попробуйте опровергнуть эту модель. Сможете найти в ней противоречия?
В русском языке идеей можно считать всё, что угодно. "Идея"- задумка. Примерно так можно определить. "Модель" - это некая конструкция, она может быть даже словесная или мысленная. Правильно называть "гипотеза" - то что ещё не доказано, и "теория" - то, что уже доказали. Любая теория начиналась с гипотезы.It's not a model. It's still just word salad. There's nothing to refute.
You need to have the vocabulary to even express your ideas.
We are perfectly capable of understanding any well-defined concepts you can write. The problem isn't your language; the problem is your ideas aren't informed. You're talking about things you can't even express.In Russian, an idea can be anything. "Idea" is a thought. That's how you can define it. "Model" is a certain construction, it can even be verbal or mental. It is correct to call "hypothesis" something that has not yet been proven, and "theory" something that has already been proven. Any theory began with a hypothesis.
My vocabulary is sufficient. The Russian language has many more words than English, and even our alphabet has more letters, so we can express our thoughts with more subtle nuances. But our phraseological units will be incomprehensible to a foreigner, so I try to speak as simply as possible.
Вселенная конечно же красная. А галактики конечно же синие. А тёмная энергия конечно же белая. Это русские раскрасили Вселенную в цвета своего флага, чтобы показать кто в ней хозяин. (Только это секрет!)We are perfectly capable of understanding any well-defined concepts you can write. The problem isn't your language; the problem is your ideas aren't informed. You're talking about things you can't even express.
Here's an example:
"What if the universe were red? And all the galaxies were blue? I don't mean thorugh your telescope; I mean in a deeper sense. Can you refute this?"
There's no model there, no hypothesis, just some words strung together. I have not expressed what "a deeper sense of red" might mean, but I've asked you to examine my idea anyway.
It's not wrong - it's not even wrong.
Please, for your sake and ours, if you are interested in this subject, do some basic reading.
[...] у меня есть модель, которая объясняет многое из того, что считается необъяснимым. [...] ("I have a model that explains a lot of what is considered inexplicable.")
Я не очень то хочу её продвигать. Всему своё время. Сейчас, вероятно, не лучшее.Post links to sources for this, even if they're in Russian. It's rather futile to promote an "alternative theory" without a website, paper, etc elaborating on such. If it's pseudoscience, then such will be futile, anyway. But doubly so if the concepts are not even articulated in a quasi-formal or counterfeit manner somewhere, that at least makes them accessible for public scrutiny.
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Вероятно, это и есть сама Вселенная.Would its nature depend on the universe giving it existence?
Зависит ли его природа от того, что Вселенная дает ему существование?