Burials

Wizard of Whatever

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Why do people choose to be embalmed, buried in a wooden coffin in a cemetery with a headstone, or a mausoleum. Better land use and better for the environment to be cremated,fed to the birds like in Tibet, fed to the fishes, or buried as to feed the forests.
 
Why do people choose to be embalmed, buried in a wooden coffin in a cemetery with a headstone, or a mausoleum. Better land use and better for the environment to be cremated,fed to the birds like in Tibet, fed to the fishes, or buried as to feed the forests.
It's not just for them, though, is it? It's also about their loved ones and what they want.
 
Some people, for religious reasons, believe in the physical resurrection of the body (e.g. on a day of Judgment). If you burn the body, presumably that makes the resurrection more difficult.
 
I understand the reality. I just don't understand the basic emotional attachment to the dead. And I agree, it is for the lining not the dead.
Потому что люди любят своих близких любыми - и живыми, и мёртвыми. А не так, как предлагаете вы: "помёр Никодим, да и хрен с ним". Для этого и тела погибших солдат вытаскивают с поля боя, и захоранивают, а не бросают на корм птицам и зверям.
 
I understand the reality. I just don't understand the basic emotional attachment to the dead. And I agree, it is for the lining not the dead.
Yes, it's emotional. I want to be buried with my wife. She's down there, still wearing her wedding ring. And I intend to be buried with her, wearing mine. I hope some day, far in the future, some people digging up the cemetery will find our our bones and see the matching wedding rings, each inscribed with the date we married and our initials - and maybe feel a flash of human connection to us, long ago. It's not rational, perhaps, but we human beings have another dimension to our thought, apart from simple rationality.
 
Bible says that Abraham cried his wife Sarah for a month. After that he leaved the place. Later on, Bible says Abraham got married again, had concubines and lots of children. Before his death Abraham gave gifts to all his children and women and, of course, gave the best of the best to his soon Issac.

From here I have learned that yes, emotions are part of us, but we must have parameters. Abraham lost his wife, he cried for her for a certain number of days. After that, he just let go and found another woman and have more children.

This is not because he never loved Sarah but because Sarah was dead. No reason or meaning to be attached to a dead woman.

The reason of burials was "dignity".

The body of the dead person to be treated with dignity. The body not to be exposed to wild animals dismembering it, to rotten and cause possible diseases when bit by insects, and also, because religious beliefs.

Burying a man was cheap and easy millenniums ago. Covered with clothes or naked, the body was to go underground. Towns separated a land for burial, at the beginning was a no one's land.

Slowly but surely, profit was made from burials up to the current cost of cemetery plot, additional funeral services, additional cost as transportation of the survivors, and more.

To me, to be buried is enough, no matter the place. Even I consider a plus to be buried and later to plant a tree over, a fruit tree if possible, you see, I want to be productive "at last"... ha ha ha
 
Burial, cremation/funerals are a way of facing up to loss, saying goodbye and part of the grieving process.

Usually anyway, i don't think it worked like that for me.

I'm not a big grave visitor, I went to see grandad and gran when his son died, I think they were close plots.
That was a sad day for a lot of reasons.

I think I was a bit of ass with this sort of thing when I lost my faith. I've calmed down a bit now.
 
Were not the pyramids built as max burial places?
Personally, I dread to have further violence done to my body, it is bad enough what will happen with dying , in the next few years (am in my 96th year)
I Have already made my coffin, aromatic cedar, dovetailed, like the pope's.
Green burial discouraged by corporate cemetaries. real estate at a premium.
Burial to facilitate the resurrection? Like upright position? If there is one ( instead of the immortal soul) . The power of the resurrector obviously will not need material evidence left behind.
Living is amazing.
 
Were not the pyramids built as max burial places?
Personally, I dread to have further violence done to my body, it is bad enough what will happen with dying , in the next few years (am in my 96th year)
I Have already made my coffin, aromatic cedar, dovetailed, like the pope's.
Green burial discouraged by corporate cemetaries. real estate at a premium.
Burial to facilitate the resurrection? Like upright position? If there is one ( instead of the immortal soul) . The power of the resurrector obviously will not need material evidence left behind.
Living is amazing.
You are commenting on a lot of threads. Are you a bot/sock puppet, or just enthusiastic?
 
You are commenting on a lot of threads. Are you a bot/sock puppet, or just enthusiastic?
Просто разносторонний человек, который интересуется многими вещами. Разве это плохо, Пин? К тому же, он говорит, что ему 96 лет - одно это уже достойно восхищения. Некоторые уже не помнят как их звать в этом возрасте.
 
I will be encased in carbonite and hung on the walls of my enemies.
 
Просто разносторонний человек, который интересуется многими вещами. Разве это плохо, Пин? К тому же, он говорит, что ему 96 лет - одно это уже достойно восхищения. Некоторые уже не помнят как их звать в этом возрасте.
yea, 14 years old in 1945. " Woyna ni karasho, Mir y Pravda" and some other choice memories.
 
I will be encased in carbonite and hung on the walls of my enemies.
Да ну на фиг! Никто не будет так заморачиваться. На заднем дворе на огороде прикопают.
 
I don't see any choice as inconsistent with remembrance of the dead. Even if the remains are viewed as an empty husk, or buzzard food, or compost, there are always ways to keep mementoes. I like the idea of keeping rings, plus misc. representative (and/or totemic) objects, then spreading cremains in a forest where phosphorous etc can help replenish soil. The memorial location would simply be a small box whose contents any descendant could open and peruse. Maybe put a few mints in there, for something to nibble while perusing.
 
Да ну на фиг! Никто не будет так заморачиваться. На заднем дворе на огороде прикопают.
This is an English forum, not Russian.
 
I don't see any choice as inconsistent with remembrance of the dead. Even if the remains are viewed as an empty husk, or buzzard food, or compost, there are always ways to keep mementoes. I like the idea of keeping rings, plus misc. representative (and/or totemic) objects, then spreading cremains in a forest where phosphorous etc can help replenish soil. The memorial location would simply be a small box whose contents any descendant could open and peruse. Maybe put a few mints in there, for something to nibble while perusing.
Celebrate their life! Make their remains do more than sit in a box under a stone marker.
 
Why do people choose to be embalmed, buried in a wooden coffin in a cemetery with a headstone, or a mausoleum. Better land use and better for the environment to be cremated,fed to the birds like in Tibet, fed to the fishes, or buried as to feed the forests.

Cremation is exploding in penny-pinching popularity. What's surprising is all the grassroots Christians opting for it with nary a second thought. But even in the pioneer days, the practical concerns were always there behind the theater.
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