Billy Baxter
Registered Senior Member
I don't know.
Body Signals Redux: Proving Mormonism
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I don't know.
Maybe his bell hadn't been rung yet.
That is way different than Presbyterian doctrine AFAIK.
And Tolkien's description of Hobbits was with hairy feet. Doesn't mean Hobbits are real.
Billy Baxter
Registered Senior Member
Yeah, it's one of those beliefs unique to Mormonism.
But my pre school teacher showed me this picture.
Did she not tell the truth?
Lazy Susan
You're missing the point. Nobody has to explain anything on here. But it would make these forums a dull place, if we all decided to wave that right.
It would simply be nice to hear your explanation of why the existence of Angels are impossible. It is quite a claim when you think of it.
jan.
As is an impossible to prove god.
Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
I think you could be right.
However I don't think I had the basics wrong, do you think I have made any incorrect statement as to Joe Smith?
Interesting.
Only the ones which con people.
Alex
Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
I agree.
Alex
Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
Hi Jan.
What do you think I think?
If you have any evidence that may be relevant to any position you may wish to take please present it.
I will be reasonable and look at all and any evidence.
Alex
Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
Jan it would be much simply for you to explain why angels are possible.
I think if I said unicorns are possible I could not ask you to establish they are impossible before I spoke about my unicorn.
For my part they are mythical and there is no need to discuss mythical beings unless of course someone offers evidence to establish their existence.
Alex
As you must be aware by now you are asking me to prove a negative.
You should also be aware this is impossible and so it is pointless exercise to really start.
Yet here I am trying to do just that.
I will concede that any angels who do exist are sipping tea from Russell's teapot before going for unicorn ridding lessons.
Humpty Dumpty is off with Poe to the Mad Hatters Tea Party with cucumber sandwiches.
As I noted elsewhere he sounds like not being 'more crazy' is something to be proud of.
Humpty Dumpty sometimes goes crazy.
Poe knows between him and Humpty Dumpty one is crazy. He is just not sure which one.
It's not. It's the same as saying, "impossible things are impossible". All supernatural beings are by definition impossible by any natural law, which is why they are called supernatural. Can someone possibly make a thing that could fool you into thinking it's an angel? Probably. But it would still certainly be a product of natural forces.
Not exactly. Supernatural implies forces that may also have some type of sentience so therefore can operate on will, whim or bias. It also can imply forces or laws of nature not yet understood though if it were would no longer be supernatural as in unusual or mechanisms and causality no longer a mystery.
Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
I certainly noted your earlier noted but I think this is worth repeatedly noting.
I think being crazy may be a prerequisite but I certainly would not say that in public.
I think believers do realise some of the things put up in their particular religion must seem strange to others but they think the strangeness does not have to hamper their faith that there is a God behind it all and they trust they are not wrong about that.
I can't approach things that way.
As I have said if someone lies once I won't trust them on any point.
Maybe all religions are founded on crazy so folk can understand faith.
Alex
Not so.
Under the Humpty Dumpty method I invoke the power of the Almighty Book of Words.
Any thy name shall be Merriam-Webster's Dictionary
And ya yee shall hold dominion over all the words both past, those currently in fashion and those in the future for now and forever until eternity.
su·per·nat·u·ral
\ˌsü-pər-ˈna-chə-rəl, -ˈnach-rəl\
adjective
- : unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc.
- 1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially: of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
- 2 a : departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature
b : attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)
sen·tience
\ˈsen(t)-sh(ē-)ən(t)s, ˈsen-tē-ən(t)s\
noun
- 1 : a sentient quality or state
- 2 : feeling or sensation as distinguished from perception and thought
This section sounds like it comes straight out of a UFO magazine.
Enthusiastic believers in UFOs never seem to grasp the word UNEXPLAINED and designate such sightings to aliens from space.
Of course such a label falls short of any evidence.
Any evidence would render the unexplained explainable.
As you note understanding the supernatural renders it natural.
However as long as these supernatural forces remain supernatural they cannot have anything ascribed to them.
Unfortunately it makes them vulnerable to the con and the catch all 'god moves in mysterious ways'.
Humpty Dumpty should loose weight to move better.
Poe is said to move in mysterious ways. He's dancing.
Do you really care what I think about that? Would you trust my assessment if I gave it? Would you feel offended if, hypothetically, I were to tell you I didn't think you were particularly bright?