Black holes do not exist

[river]

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So black-holes can't exist . They don't change the volume of space . Black-holes don't decrease the volume of space

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Why do you think a black hole should "decrease the volume of space"? Can you cite one scientific source that says anything like that?

No , these are my own thoughts .

Black-holes decrease the volume of space , because they condense matter to the point that matter needs less space to exist . Hence this goes on for infinity . Until there is no space and nor matter , nor Energy . It is nothing . Nothing begets nothing , ( No-thing ) for infinity .

Therefore the Universe should be based on something , the Physical three dimensional Universe , Something , which is for infinity existent .

river

 

[river]

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No , these are my own thoughts .

Black-holes decrease the volume of space , because they condense matter to the point that matter needs less space to exist . Hence this goes on for infinity . Until there is no space and nor matter , nor Energy . It is nothing . Nothing begets nothing , ( No-thing ) for infinity .

Therefore the Universe should be based on something , the Physical three dimensional Universe , Something , which is for infinity existent .

 

[river]

This may be of interest:

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Not really , Interested . Heard about it before . Nonsense .

 

[river]

Anyway from post # 621

So black-holes can't exist . They don't change the volume of space . Black-holes don't decrease the volume of space
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Why do you think a black hole should "decrease the volume of space"? Can you cite one scientific source that says anything like that?

No , these are my own thoughts .


Black-holes decrease the volume of space , because they condense matter to the point that matter needs less space to exist . Hence this goes on for infinity . Until there is no space and nor matter , nor Energy . It is nothing . Nothing begets nothing , ( No-thing ) for infinity .

Therefore the Universe should be based on something , the Physical three dimensional Universe , Something , which is for infinity existent .

river

 

[river]

What about the black hole ? Does it exist or not?

NO.

 

[Write4U]

NO.

So were does the mass equal to 66 billion suns (maybe an entire galaxy) come from?

 

[river]

river said: ↑
NO

So were does the mass equal to 66 billion suns come from?

To account for what the theory needs to be legit . Based on gravity . And is not the same space that normally 66 billion Suns would take to exist .

 

[Write4U]

To account for what the theory needs to be legit . Based on gravity . And is not the same space that normally 66 billion Suns would take to exist .

Exactly, these suns (not space) are compressed into a singularity

 

[river]

river said: ↑
To account for what the theory needs to be legit . Based on gravity . And is not the same space that normally 66 billion Suns would take to exist .

Exactly, these suns (not space) are compressed into a singularity

What happened to the space that these 66 billion stars would normally have taken up ?

 

[river]

Write4U said: ↑
Exactly, these suns (not space) are compressed into a singularity

Not possible .

Define , singularity . In your words , Write4U .

 

[Write4U]

Not possible .

Define , singularity . In your words , Write4U .

I mostly use the same words as everybody else.
I could speak Dutch , but it's been a long time since I have Hollands gesproken

Gravitational singularity

A gravitational singularity, spacetime singularity or simply singularity is a condition in which gravity is so intense that spacetime itself breaks down catastrophically. As such, a singularity is by definition no longer part of the regular spacetime and cannot be determined by "where" or "when".

Trying to find a complete and precise definition of singularities in the theory of general relativity, the current best theory of gravity, remains a difficult problem.[1][2] A singularity in general relativity can be defined by the scalar invariant curvature becoming infinite[3] or, better, by a geodesic being incomplete.[4]

Gravitational singularity - Wikipedia

Might well be the backdoor entrance to another universe or in the case of toroidal universe the backdoor to the same Universe.
A singularity does not need to be small. It just is very dense as in 60 billion suns collapsing into a single ball. When a critical threshold is reached the black hole collapse reverses into a rapid expansion and a new universe or galaxy emerges in a state of chaos which self-orders when cooling slows expansion down.

Maybe the empty space in the next illustration is the empty remnant of a giant black hole that has shed its mass into a new beginning universe.

 

[river]

I mostly use the same words as everybody else.
I could speak Dutch , but it's been a long time since I have Hollands gesproken

Gravitational singularity

Gravitational singularity - Wikipedia

Its all non-sense , Write4U , you know this to be true .

 

[Write4U]

Its all non-sense , Write4U , you know this to be true .

It makes sense to me. It is simple and elegant, but does have some speculative aspects.
But until a better concept comes along I'll go with this as the most likely scenario.

 

[river]

It makes sense to me. It is simple and elegant, but does have some speculative aspects.
But until a better concept comes along I'll go with this as the most likely scenario.

It makes sense to many , but its wrong . Mathematical " elegance " is irrelevant .

Some speculative aspects ? It is all speculative . BH . Mathematical Speculation . Thats it .

 

[James R]

Moderator note:

48 off-topic posts have been moved to a new thread, here:

Black hole multiverse cosmology and Write4U's mathematical universe

Write4u has been warned (again) for posting more of his pet-topic spam to an unrelated thread.

 

[river]

It makes sense to many , but its wrong . Mathematical " elegance " is irrelevant .

Some speculative aspects ? It is all speculative . BH . Mathematical Speculation . Thats it .

James R post#635

Are you saying that mathematics is not the essence of the Universe ? If so I agree .

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

Black holes are great. So if I spin a ball on the floor and roll a marble into the ball the marble deflects right? So a large mass spinning light speed is gonna throw a planet like a baseball leaving the bat.

 

[arfa brane]

A black hole can be created if sufficient pressure is applied to a region of "empty" space.

If you could build some device that generates somehow an inward spherical compression wave, you make a black hole. You don't actually need matter.

Why it works, theoretically, is because gravity is in fact pressure. (ask John Baez if you don't believe me)

 

[James R]

trevor:

So a large mass spinning light speed is gonna throw a planet like a baseball leaving the bat.

Remember what you were told about posting pseudoscientific nonsense?

Stop it, please. I don't want to have to ask you again.