I'm not talking about the HPV being available for boys, I'm talking about the birthcontrol vaccine being available for boys. Seems most here re talking about it for themselves or other men. What about teenagers?
Birth control vaccine in the works
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I'm not talking about the HPV being available for boys, I'm talking about the birthcontrol vaccine being available for boys. Seems most here re talking about it for themselves or other men. What about teenagers?
must be Australia only then. Gardisil pushes for males to be vaccinated as well. Males here get it as well.
well, our US gvmt must care more about its young people then. The shots here are gvmt funded for both sexes and cost $10 each.
Once again i dont like the word "vacine" being used for contraception but anyway. Why would it be any different from implanon? But thats beside the point as far as teenages (either gender) getting contraceptives its quite clear, its up to the indervidual (under current law). Unless your talking about giving it to 10 year olds i would be quite surprised if a doctor would perscribe it on the parents request but as for the teenager its really simple, if they are capable of understanding the conquences of the treatment options and are capable of acting in there own best intrest (the second is ovious if they are seeking contraception) then its irrelivent what the parents say, its between the doctor and there patient (the teenager)
In the original OP the birth control vaccine is made to take orally and does not require refrigeration. So it probably won't be to hard to get regardless of the law.
Fraggle Rocker
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It's been lately asserted that:
- 1. Teenagers have a very short time horizon. For them, the discounted-present-value of a risk that won't manifest until several years in the future is zero. This means that they are, in fact, not "capable of acting in their own best interest" beyond the short term, perhaps the next school year or sports season.
- 2. Humans do not develop their fully adult sense of judgment, including morality, until about age 30. So for a teenager, the risk of transmitting a disease they don't even have yet to someone else whom they haven't even met yet is not very important. And as far as teenage boys are concerned, pregnancy is not really their problem so they don't have to worry about it at all.
In the USA parents have considerable rights over the choices they make for their children. The government can only take away those rights one at a time, through a legislative or judicial process.
For example, when people have children they are not required to reallocate their family budget so they can live in a safer neighborhood where random bullets do not come through the wall. Or to buy new tires for their car or have the brakes relined when they need it, to reduce the possibility of a fatal crash.
On the other hand, just to illustrate why legislating these things is almost always a bad idea, at least in the USA, it's been recently legislated that when you take a young child for a ride in your car, you are required to place him in a rear-facing child-seat in the back seat. This runs counter to the reality that about twice as many children die from being forgotten and left in the back seat of a hot car than were killed in the front seat by airbags deploying in a collision in the old days.
If I were a parent I would be picketing my state legislature every day to overturn this idiotic, dangerous law.
Ya but Fraggle....insurance doesn't have to payout for children left in a hot car. So...good luck and all that...
You know you constantly making idiotic statments like that which fly in the face of reality. For instance P platers are almost never caught drink driving compared to 40-50 year olds. Further more if a teenager walks into a doctors surgury and asks for contraceptive they OVIOUSLY are thinking about the risks. There for your point is compleate and utter rubbish.
As far as parents forcing it on there children you dont have a pray of getting that through, why? because giving pregancy hormones to someone THAT far below 16 (when by law a person has the right to concent to medical treatment automatically rather than having to prove competancy) is bloody dangerious. Your getting to close to the start of pubity, anything could happen if you pump them full of the pill. 15, 14 even sure but younger? no way.
what is a p plater?? and what does drunk driving have to do with this thread?:shrug:
And the only contraceptives available to teens without parental approval in the US are condoms and spermicide. Anything that needs a prescription (pills, injections, implants) or an exam (diaphragm, hormonal ring, IUD) is gonna need parental approval.