EmptyForceOfChi:
Explain why it is "totally illogical". A bald assertion is useless.
Actually, you are wrong. The big bang theory doesn't even deal with what the universe "came from". Nor does it deal with anything that occurred prior to about 10^-43 seconds after the universe's beginning.
Nowhere does it say that anything "defies physics". Read it again.
And if God created the universe, what then? Is that hypothesis flawed, too?
This is incorrect. The concept of potential energy applies differently in general relativity than in Newtonian gravitation. The author clearly doesn't know what he is talking about here.
This problem is solved by "dark energy".
What have you read about proposed solutions to these difficulties?
No, they correctly believe that, since that is in fact what the theory predicts.
The author is obviously not aware of the fluctuations in the CMB observed over recent years, which perfectly explain the observed "clumping". This guy really needs to do his homework.
No explanation here. How convenient. I must assume the author is simply mistaken, as usual.
And yet, certain findings in the standard model of particle physics show that asymmetries of this kind do exist in particle physics. Probably the author is uninformed on particle physics.
The author is a Creationist as well as a Bang-denier?
It is incorrect that dark matter cannot be measured. The distribution of dark matter in galaxies can be and has been mapped. It is observable by its gravitational effects.
What alternate theory does the author propose that works better?
Ah yes. Here we go. The author is indeed a Creationist.
Of course, ruling out the Big Bang doesn't in any way rule in God. There are hundreds of alternatives. If the Big Bang theory is proved false tomorrow, that does not mean that there is "only one credible explanation" remaining. Perhaps the big bang is false, and the universe was really sneezed out of the nose of the Great Green Arkleseizure. So much for the Christian God.
Again, a basic familiarity with the theory would be nice.
So, the author believes the big bang when it agrees with his Bible, but disbelieves it when it contradicts.
How convenient (but unscientific) for him.
How about you, EFOC?
it is illogical to believe it as total fact so that you rule out other ideas, it is not illogical to believe it might be true but still be open to other theory,
there is as i see it a flaw with this wich you stated "Nor does it deal with anything that occurred prior to about 10^-43 seconds after the universe's beginning" because you state that the universe had a beginning wich you have no proof for. so i am not actualy wrong on that one.
the big bang theory does defy physics until physics alters slightly to allign with the theory. we could call this evolution of a theory, we could also call it changing current physics to meet with the theory.
"And if God created the universe, what then? Is that hypothesis flawed, too?"
i am not saying yes or no to this, i dont know what created the universe.
i was not aware that potential energy is different within general relativity than in newtonian gravitation.
yes the theoretical problem is solved with theoretical dark energy, wich happens to be proven by watching gravitational pull in space, thats convenient to the theory i must say, just like black holes are proven i guess..
i am reading proposed solutions to many of the problems yes,
and as far as i was aware the clumping is explained in theory wich is also far from proven scientific fact am i correct?
yes the author seems to be mistaken alot,
partical physics? i might be wrong here because i do not read up on things before i reply, but isnt that the new theory and lab testings where positives create negatives in exacts? space and distance are not relevant are they to this? i believe someone started a thread along the lines of particle consciousness?
yes he seems like a creationist, and he does say things that i do not condone, especialy involving evolution of man, i cringe when i read that but nevermind, i do still think he holds some good points,
i do not know what theory the author likes better and think works better, i obviously cant answer that for him, but i personaly am reading up on many multiverse and string theory, also many others wich i think hold as much ground as the big bang and single 'uni'verse theory.
i did not say that ruling out the big bang theory rules in god, i am saying that the big bang theory might not be true, i just dont see sense in saying "yes i believe this 100%" the truth is i dont know, i value lots of theorys, many different ideas catch my attention and time, i just cant bring myself to sticking to a single idea as solid proof,
the bible is a book and has no place in my thread, take that to the religion or philosophy forum.
i am familiar with the big bang theory, but it is flawed as i stated before. "10^-43 seconds after the universe's beginning" that is stating that the universe did start at a point, and that is not proven yet,
peace.