Belief in alien visits to Earth is spiralling out of control – here’s why that’s so dangerous

Wizard of Whatever said:
Einstein and QM pioneers did just that.
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Except they didn't "supercede" any basic physical laws - just added some caveats.

The "over-unity" community is not made up of physicists trying to work on basic science - it's a collection of cranks who believe in massive conspiracies meant to keep them from their dream of free power. You see this with magnet motors, overbalance wheels, the carburetor that runs on water (but that the oil companies have been suppressing) etc.

Today anyone with a Facebook account can create misinformation - and thousands do. Thus a gullible rube can surround himself with misinformation from literally thousands of sources and claim that their woo is well supported. Free energy is just one of the many such conspiracies out there. It's more a symptom of how easy it is to create misinformation (and much some people want to believe it) than anything to do with changing physics.

This is especially sad because there ARE ways to get what is effectively free energy nowadays - but the conspiracy theorists will never see them. Indeed, once a technology is proven (say, solar-PV or betavoltaics) the free-energy community immediately loses interest in them, and returns to insisting that the government is hiding a secret arc reactor in Area 51 that they got from an alien ship (or something similar.)
 
Wizard of Whatever said:
Actually you said they may even lie and implied it again here.

How much reproduction is enough and by whom.

Zero point means this and other things in the over-unity community.
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No doubt, but then “the over-unity community” is by definition full of cranks that don’t know what they are talking about. :biggrin:

See also @billvon’s excellent explaination of the group psychology, enabled by social media, that allows them to generate a self-validating bubble detached from reality. The “over-unity community” has yet to produce a single device that works, however much they delusionally compare themselves to Einstein. And they never will, because the laws of thermodynamics are not going to be broken.
 
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Wizard of Whatever said:
Physical laws (thermodynamics, etc.) are not absolute. They can and will be superseded or modified.
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Physical laws are descriptive, not prescriptive.

If you've got evidence that the laws of thermodynamics don't work any more, then the scientific community wants to hear all about it. It'd better be very strong evidence, though, because everything else we know about so far says they work just fine.
 
James R said:
You're still getting this wrong, even after more than one person has tried t viewpoints based on personal feelings, opinions, or beliefs. o put you straight on the difference between objective and subjective.
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My observations and experiences are objective facts, not just viewpoints based on personal feelings, opinions, or beliefs.
 
Wizard of Whatever said:
Seriously, don't need help. You think someone with opposite ideas from you needs help. We don't.
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This is not science, it just what words mean.
I like Kate Bush, I like sound of her voice.
A few heathens on SF do not like her voice, this is a subjective view. I think they should love her voice, they tell me to sod off.
This is fine, it depends on how a person feels about something.

"Wow" the superb song of Lion Heart (I think) is in Am. We can all check this and agree on it, it is demonstrably verifiable.
Am is an objective fact.
 
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