Barefoot Bar's days are numbered

billvon

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When I first got to San Diego in 1992, the Barefoot Bar was a pretty popular place. It had an indoor sand-covered dance floor and a bar outside by Mission Bay. It also had a little lagoon; they would pump water in from the bay to make a waterfall, then the water would flow into a lagoon stocked with interesting fish, then the water would go out an outlet, down the beach and back into the bay. Apparently night herons really liked this lagoon, and we'd always see a few of those very exotic looking birds there looking for food. We've gone there on and off throughout the years.

We went this week with a few other families. While we were waiting for a table I looked at the lagoon outlet and thought "you know, someone could come here some time after dark and just pile sand on that outlet, and it would cause the lagoon to flood." But I figured they had a way to prevent that by turning off the waterfall or something.

So we sat down and ordered. And I noticed that the water was starting to rise in the lagoon and spill over into the restaurant area. Then the waterfall stopped. "No way!" I thought. "Did someone actually do that?"

So I got up and looked and the outlet was still open - but water was now flowing into the lagoon from the bay.

We talked to the waiter about that. "Oh yeah that happens sometimes" she said. "It hasn't gotten into the kitchen yet but sometimes the entire patio is underwater."

Like many places threatened by sea level rise, the pattern was the same. First they'd only flood during storm surges, once a decade or so. Then only during king tides, perhaps three or four times a year. Then only during spring tides twice a month. Then before long there are no days where there's not at least the threat of the place being underwater, and it has to shut down. (Or rebuild, but raising a bar/restaurant on the coast by 2 feet is no easy feat.)

It's easy to forget about sea level rise when 1) it's so slow and 2) we live on a 400 foot hill. It never affects us. But it's definitely affecting other people here.

Anyway as the water rose we moved tables, then we had to move tables again. We were getting pretty close to the end of the patio by the time the water stopped rising, and our 12 year old then moved some barstools around so we could leave without walking through 2 inches of water.

At least Barefoot had a good run.

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I'd be sitting there until my plate was empty. Soggy drawers, not a problem. I think it relates to having parents who lived in the Dust Bowl. :cool: There was this deep ethos about leaving no scraps of food. (The bird's as well, I'm sure)

Anyway, it reminds me not to be overly envious of your mild winters.
 
I'd be sitting there until my plate was empty. Soggy drawers, not a problem. I think it relates to having parents who lived in the Dust Bowl. :cool: There was this deep ethos about leaving no scraps of food. (The bird's as well, I'm sure)
That would NOT make the bird happy.

But we did definitely stay until we were done. Only three of us got wet feet.
 
There is a piece in today's FT about the need to replace the Thames Barrier, which protects London and the Thames Estuary from tidal and storm surges, about 20 years before the previously planned date, because of sea level rise. It was originally thought to be needed because of the gradual tilting of Britain, which results in the SE corner sinking. But sea level rise coming on top has changed the calculation. The barrier has been operated far more than the designers expected, with concomitant wear and tear, and also the height and location of it need to be rethought for the future.

I have little doubt the Dutch are also looking anxiously at capex for the flood defences on their side of the N Sea.
 
There is a piece in today's FT about the need to replace the Thames Barrier, which protects London and the Thames Estuary from tidal and storm surges, about 20 years before the previously planned date, because of sea level rise. It was originally thought to be needed because of the gradual tilting of Britain, which results in the SE corner sinking. But sea level rise coming on top has changed the calculation. The barrier has been operated far more than the designers expected, with concomitant wear and tear, and also the height and location of it need to be rethought for the future.

I have little doubt the Dutch are also looking anxiously at capex for the flood defences on their side of the N Sea.
One has to wonder at what point the low countries will be moving some of their population to higher ground. That would be quite the nightmare, I would imagine, moving many people to the Limburg province or other higher elevation land. That'd be a helluva capex.
 
One has to wonder at what point the low countries will be moving some of their population to higher ground. That would be quite the nightmare, I would imagine, moving many people to the Limburg province or other higher elevation land. That'd be a helluva capex.
I expect it will happen like New Orleans, or Galveston. One inundation too many and people will start moving away, esp. if they can’t get insurance on homes rebuilt in the same location after the flood. I think I’ve read that parts of Miami already can’t get insurance.

To me, insurance is the big climate issue for the 1st world that nobody talks about. There are no insurance companies that doubt the reality of climate change. Their actuaries can see it in the stats and the payouts,
 
One has to wonder at what point the low countries will be moving some of their population to higher ground.
I don't think that will happen in any place where they can move gradually.

On low-lying islands, definitely. It's already happened a few times.
 
Yep. So they'll become homeless (here) or die (in, say, India.) But not your problem! They should have invested more in their 401k.
That's an interesting thought. Did it come to you while piloting a floatplane or when collecting rent from your rental property?

I said some people can't afford to move. Some can't quit doing drugs. Some have to walk 10 miles in the snow to go to school. Some just need to take Fentanyl and can't help it.

Let's just focus on them even more, shall we?
 
That's an interesting thought. Did it come to you while piloting a floatplane or when collecting rent from your rental property?

I said some people can't afford to move. Some can't quit doing drugs. Some have to walk 10 miles in the snow to go to school. Some just need to take Fentanyl and can't help it.

Let's just focus on them even more, shall we?
I heard a saying a while back which I find to be very true.

Everyone can care about themselves.
Almost everyone can care about their friends and family.
Most people can care about their neighborhood.
Many people can care about their state,
Some people can care about their country.
A few people can even care about their world.

I aspire to the last on the list, not the first.

Good luck in your efforts to stay high up on that list!
 
I heard a saying a while back which I find to be very true.

Everyone can care about themselves.
Almost everyone can care about their friends and family.
Most people can care about their neighborhood.
Many people can care about their state,
Some people can care about their country.
A few people can even care about their world.

I aspire to the last on the list, not the first.

Good luck in your efforts to stay high up on that list!
No one cares as much as you, I'm sure. You'll get your well deserved recognition one day, maybe even an award. Caring and praying are all we really need in this world, right?
 
No one cares as much as you, I'm sure. You'll get your well deserved recognition one day, maybe even an award. Caring and praying are all we really need in this world, right?
I sense you are trying really hard to insult me. But making fun of me for caring about other people might not be the sick burn you hoped for.

But by all means, keep trying. After all, the goal of this place is to attack the poster, not the argument. Maybe you could make fun of my name, or skin color, or religion? But be sure to ignore the topic!
 
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