Australian Scientists Teleport a Beam of Light

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Australian Scientists Teleport a Beam of Light
By Belinda Goldsmith

C A N B E R R A, June 17

— In a world breakthrough out of the realms of Star Trek, scientists in Australia have successfully teleported a laser beam of light from one spot to another in a split second but warn: don't sell the car yet.




A team of physicists at the Australian National University (ANU) announced today they had successfully disembodied a laser beam in one location and rebuilt it in a different spot about one meter away in the blink of an eye.

Project leader Dr Ping Koy Lam said there was a close resemblance between what his team had achieved and the movement of people in the science fiction series Star Trek, but reality was still light years off beaming human beings between locations.

"In theory there is nothing stopping us from doing it, but the complexity of the problem is so huge that no one is thinking seriously about it at the moment," Lam told a news conference.

Teleportion of Atom a Few Years Away

However, Lam said science was not too far from being able to teleport solid matter from one location to another.

"My prediction is ... it will probably be done by someone in the next three to five years, that is the teleportation of a single atom," said Lam, who has worked on teleporting since 1997.

But he said humans posed a near-impossible task as we are made up of zillions of atoms — quantified by a one with 27 zeroes — so forget Star Trek where the starship Enterprise crew step into a transporter, vaporize, then re-assemble elsewhere.

The laser beam was destroyed during teleporting, which is achieved using a process known as quantum entanglement.

However, the breakthrough opens up enormous possibilities for future super-fast and super-secure communications systems, such as quantum computers, over the next decade.

World Race

Physicists believe quantum computers could outperform classical computers with enormous memory and the ability to solve problems millions of times faster.

Teleportation became one of the hottest topics among physicists in quantum mechanics in the past decade, after the IBM lab in the United States provided theoretical underpinning for the work in 1993. Since then about 40 laboratories globally have been experimenting in this area.

Although teams in California and Denmark were the first to do preliminary work on teleportation, the ANU team of scientists from Australia, Germany, France, China and New Zealand was the first to achieve a successful trial with 100 percent reliability.

How It’s Done

The idea is if quantum particles like electrons, ions, and atoms have the same properties, they are essentially the same.

So if the properties of quantum particles making up an object are reproduced in another particle group, there would be a precise duplication of the object, so only information about the particles' properties need be transmitted, not the particles.

The inability to pass the information reliably has been a major stumbling block in past "entanglement" experiments.

ANU team member Warwick Bowen said they first successfully teleported a laser beam on May 23 to their great surprise, and repeated the success time after time in following weeks using their small-car-sized transporter, ironing out certain glitches.

"Even in Star Trek they realize there are problems with teleportation," Bowen told the news conference.

"It is such a complicated experiment that nobody knows whether their particular set-up is going to work until you do it ...and it turns out our system is very good."

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so I ask the physics gurus, is this another teleportation illusion? Because I feel quite uncertain laser beam teleportation means TELEPORTATION.
There is no difference in this kind of teleportation, because the laser beam itself travels at light speed.

I await when this will be done with atoms.
cheers!
 
I believe teleportation could be possible. Teleportation involves dematerializing an object at one point, and sending the details of that object's precise atomic configuration to another location, where it will be reconstructed. So making such a complex transporter capable of that would be terribly terribly difficult, the human body only contains 10^28 atoms. :D

In 1993 physicist Charles Bennett and a team of researchers at IBM confirmed that quantum teleportation was possible - the original object being teleported was destroyed. Experiments using photons have proven that quantum teleportation is in fact possible. 1998 - Physicists at the California Institute of Technology, along with two European groups, turned the IBM ideas into reality by successfully teleporting a photon. They read the atomic structure of the photon and sent it across 1 meter of cable and created a replica of the photon - the original photon no longer existed as an outcome.

How did these Caltech nerds accomplish this? Entanglement

They were able to get around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle by entanglement. In entanglement, at least three photons are needed to achieve quantum teleportation. Let's say Photon A is going to be teleported. Photon B is the "transporting" photon. Photon C is "entangled" with photon B. If researchers tried to look too closely at A without entanglement, they would "bump" it, thus changing it. By entangling B and C, researchers can extract some information about A, and the remaining information would be passed on to B by way of entanglement, and then on to C. When researchers apply the information from A to C, they can create an exact replica of A. But A no longer exists as it did before the information was sent to C.

Well now they can teleport a laser beam :D

It doesn't sound to promising for humans does it? ;) With 10^28 atoms...that's almost impossible. Instanteous transportation could be invalidated by the laws of physics because it would require things to travel at the speed of light. If humans want to be transported, a very very very intricate machine would have to be made that can pinpoint and analyze all of the 10^28 atoms and their exact locations. Gee, how would entanglement work here???? The machine would send the "information" to another machine and be reconstructed with exact precision - trillion trillion atoms. The "new" person could suffer some neurological or physiological defect if molecules were at their wrong positions or just plain become deformed.

Science is just too cool. :cool:
 
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I hope you don’t mind if I expand the discussion a bit. Although it does not involve teleporting a laser beam, it is indirectly related to quantum teleportation or "communication" of quantum particles introduced by The_Chosen.

What if space were composed of four spatial dimensions instead of four-dimensional space-time? Would it be possible to resolve the EPR paradox and dervie a better understanding of how "quantum" teleportation could be realized? Please see <a href=http://home.attbi.com/~jeffocal/chapter5.htm> Chapter 5</a>

Jeff
 
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Chapter 5 is flawed. You are inferring that information can travel faster than light through the interaction of a series of 'mattercules.' One mattercule touching up against another and so on..

Using the example of a very long solid rod, when one end has a force applied to it, it is assumed the other end will feel that force instantaneously. In fact, the force needs to be transferred from one atom to the next within the rod. These interactions never reach the speed of light and therefore the one end never feels the force instantaneously or even at the speed of light. A pulse of light fired from one end of the rod to the other, (not through the rod of course) at the same time as applying the force, will reach the other end before the force.

Light travels through a vacuum in which matter may be present, but in very small quantities, if at all. In other words, there is nothing present within the vacuum that would impede the light not to travel at c. The only thing that impedes light from traveling faster than c is spacetime itself. If spacetime allowed light to travel faster than c, it would. That has not been observed.

But it appears your concept of space is different. Your view of space is having four spatial dimensions and no temporal dimension. In your worldview, there is nothing to discriminate one event from another. There is also no room for reference frames or relativity. I would presume therefore, your worldview assumes an absolute frame of reference.
 
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jeff

There is also no room for reference frames or relativity.
I would presume therefore, your worldview assumes an absolute frame of reference.

Please review more of shadows before you ask a leading question such as the one above because if you had you would know that that issue was addressed and answered. We have had discussions in the past where it has been implied that Shadows does not address specific issues and therefore is invalid. For example, if you had looked at the table of contents you would have known that shadows does address the issue of absolute reference frames in <a href=http://home.attbi.com/~jeffocal/chapter18.htm> Chapter 18</a> "The Principle of Equivalence, Inertia & Absolute Reference Frames" . It is clearly spelled out in the title that it does address that question and the text of that chapter indicates that shadows does not assume the existence absolute reference frames by deriving all inertial reference frames as being equivalent. You may not agree with it but shadows clearly does directly address and provide an answer to that question.


Please try not to let these misrepresentations of <a href=http://home.attbi.com/~jeffocal/shadows.htm> Shadows </a> by a few influence your decision weather or not review shadows and decide for yourself the value of these ideas. I think most will find them rather interesting. In addition, please do not let some influence your decision by posting portions of shadows out of context as a few have done in the past in attempt to discredit it.

Jeff

BTW the subject of relativity is covered in a chapter with the title of <a href=http://home.attbi.com/~jeffocal/chapter15.htm> Relativity </a>
 
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I've already read Chapter 18 along with a number of other chapters. Pure hogwash. Every chapter is flawed.

"Shadows," in part or in it's entirety, is flawed.

"Shadows" could be the start of some good science fiction, all you need is a story line and some characters. Aside from that, there are no redeemable qualities to suggest the observed universe operates in the manner presented. Back to the drawing board.
 
? Teleportation?

What do you mean by that? We don't even know how electrons exactly move due to the uncertainty principle, so we just assume to be certain probablilities that an electron will be here and htere. We assume them to somehow zip around, a lot like teleporting to me.

And how do they know that the light beam was actually teleported? And not the original beam being absorbed into somehting and another beam being spit outta something else??

I am not sure if teleporting is even possible. Maybe the scientists couldn't detect the beam moving, due to the high speed of light. Light moves at the speed of light, right? :D
 
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What do you mean by that? We don't even know how electrons exactly move due to the uncertainty principle, so we just assume to be certain probablilities that an electron will be here and htere. We assume them to somehow zip around, a lot like teleporting to me.

And how do they know that the light beam was actually teleported? And not the original beam being absorbed into somehting and another beam being spit outta something else??

I am not sure if teleporting is even possible. Maybe the scientists couldn't detect the beam moving, due to the high speed of light. Light moves at the speed of light, right? :D

Read my post, but yea, the original always gets destroyed if the other comes out. The information is transfered. Everything is dematerialized and turns into information. Weird eh? But it's cool, and to get pass the Uncertainty Principle, they use quantum computers and a phenomenon known as entanglement. Find out more if you would like.
 
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