Are you ashamed of your ancestors?

Oh please. You agreed with glaucons statement with no reservations and then gave me some ladida about supporting statements against Jews and Negroes, but couldn't admit that theists don't really count as "anybody".

They do count as "anybody", they are just in the wrong forum if they wanted to be treated like their theistic beliefs matter. Would be like me, an evolutionist, going Crosswalk.com and trying to sell my beliefs, and becoming frustrated when people objected. It's a SCIENCE forum, SAM, deal with it.

This is obvious at sciforums and your attitude is just reflective of the general policy.

That policy being: religion is incorrect and contrary to science. Yes, one might expect that a SCIENCE forum.

~String
 
Dammit dn't say stuff like that, I have to keep the angst up for my arguments. :D

I've been fighting with my middle sister for three years about her support for Bush and her belief in reincarnation. I still like her. I guarantee you, if we met, we'd have a fantastic time and a great conversation.

~String
 
They do count as "anybody", they are just in the wrong forum if they wanted to be treated like their theistic beliefs matter. Would be like me, an evolutionist, going Crosswalk.com and trying to sell my beliefs, and becoming frustrated when people objected. It's a SCIENCE forum, SAM, deal with it.



That policy being: religion is incorrect and contrary to science. Yes, one might expect that a SCIENCE forum.

~String

Its not a science forum if scientific standards are set aside for theists.

I've been fighting with my middle sister for three years about her support for Bush and her belief in reincarnation. I still like her. I guarantee you, if we met, we'd have a fantastic time and a great conversation.

~String
Wow.
 
That policy being: religion is incorrect and contrary to science. Yes, one might expect that a SCIENCE forum.

~String

I prefer Gould's stance: that they form completely different magisteria, and have nothing to say to one another.
 
I prefer Gould's stance: that they form completely different magisteria, and have nothing to say to one another.

Yea I'd be ashamed of my ancestors too if I were you ;)

'and never the twain shall meet'
another sayin' that comes to mind in these situations
 
SAM said:
"White" is not a culture. "White people" is far too diverse a group to be considered "a culture" by any stretch of the word.

I'm not quite certain that is true. There is definitely a culture around colour in western society.
In a very shallow sense this is so, in many places. When my brother, white and married to a black woman, lived in New Mexico in a Spanish-speaking neighborhood, the pecking order of skin color was overt: browns simply moved to the front of the cash register line, were served first at bars, etc. Whites were next, unless dressed very badly. Blacks were last, unless dressed very well.

And New Mexican Latino culture is Western, am I right?

Or maybe it isn't. It's certainly hard to tell just by that anecdote, which should tell you something.
SAM said:
I just had, for example, a conversation with a poster who applauds the notion that theists are insane, because he doesn't agree with their beliefs, but is affronted by the notion that another member considers him unnatural because he is gay.

The idea that tolerance embraces an ideology one agrees with is a kind of white culture, I think
The bizarre notion ("insane" is much too strong) that gay is an ideology seems to be found in more than one culture, obviously - but they all seem to have monotheistic religions, for some reason.

geoff said:
I prefer Gould's stance: that they form completely different magisteria, and have nothing to say to one another.
Reasonable, but it begs the usual question: which one, in a given situation, is invading the other's realm?
 
"a boy doesn't choose his father"...there's nothing to be ashamed of if one has proper logic.
 
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