aortic valve calcium deposits

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question:
anyone have experience with aortic valve calcium deposits

from a plumbing perspective, the 4 heart valves seem to be check valves
if so then
could/would calcium deposits make the valve less effective?
then
should I want to eliminate the calcium deposits
what approach would be best?
chelating agents?
or vitamin supplements like K2

dangers of chelating agents?
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this is uncharted territory for me so any input would most likely fill in the charts?
 
What has your doctor suggested? (I'm assuming a doctor diagnosed you.) Are you taking any meds for this?
 
wegs said:
What has your doctor suggested? (I'm assuming a doctor diagnosed you.) Are you taking any meds for this?
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no,
nothing yet
Current system has gp meetings followed by tests followed by meetings followed by tests followed by gp meetings followed by different tests

I tend to do my own research,
then have the ability to converse with a suitable understanding about just what in hell we are discussing.

I'm reasonably certain that when I discuss this with my gp,(next week) he will want to refer me to a cardiologist who will most likely want different test done-----(days---weeks---?)

I get the feeling that I am 3 steps into a journey of a thousand miles
whatever
It should prove interesting
(starting the K2 this week---don't see much of a downside)
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meanwhile, the proctologist couldn't get the scope beyond the bend where the transverse colon meets the descending colon, so I get to go through that ordeal again with a different proctologist--------
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I just started with this new gp a few weeks ago, and he seems hell bent on finding everything that is wrong with this old body( much of which is surprising me)
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ain't like an old truck where you might decide that the maintenance is costing too damned much and you would be better off buying a new one.
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whither hence?
 
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sculptor said:
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i am reading what i can find
dont know anything about it

from rough memory calcium is critical to brain/neuron function.

glancing at some comments it first makes me wonder if people with higher brain functions are more at risk because they may potentially have a greater flow of calcium or better ability to process it in the blood ?
one may negate the severity of the other ?

my point is your question around specified calcium celation and how that may effect the brain for any length or time or over all quantity etc.
chemicals that may help remove calcium from the blood and if that may interfere with memory and neural processes.

are there celation techniques that process externally so no chemicals are put directly into the blood stream that may reduce calcium availability in the brain ?
i am thinking from a best practice point not an alarmist point so my apologies if it sounds a little alarmist.
 
here is the mayo clinic description
READ THIS PAGE
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353145

sculptor said:
or vitamin supplements like K2
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this sounds fairly safe and logical
this person is selling something called "blood flow optimizer"
a collection of herbs/teas & amino acids and some other stuff.

however, if your healthy and do all that kinda stuff eat an anti inflammatory diet and do a bit of weights & cardio
AND have aortic valve calcium deposits ...
then you may need some type of special cocktail of things that helps remove the calcium from your blood

mayo clinic on ...
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...expert-answers/chelation-therapy/faq-20157449
Can chelation therapy treat heart disease?
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Answer From Rekha Mankad, M.D.

It's unclear whether chelation therapy can treat heart disease. Chelation therapy has been used for many years as a treatment for mercury and lead poisoning, but it isn't a proven treatment for heart disease. It can potentially cause serious side effects when used as a heart disease treatment. Even so, some doctors and complementary health practitioners have used chelation therapy to treat heart disease and stroke.

In chelation therapy, a dose of a medication called ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) is delivered into your bloodstream through an intravenous (IV) line. This medication seeks out and binds to minerals in your bloodstream. Once the medication binds to the minerals, it creates a compound that leaves your body in your urine.
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Quantification of Dialytic Removal and Extracellular Calcium Mass Balance during a Weekly Cycle of Hemodialysis
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0153285
Abstract
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Objectives
The removal of calcium during hemodialysis with low calcium concentration in dialysis fluid is generally slow, and the net absorption of calcium from dialysis fluid is often reported. The details of the calcium transport process during dialysis and calcium mass balance in the extracellular fluid, however, have not been fully studied.
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Results
Weekly dialytic removal of 12.79 ± 8.71 mmol calcium was found in 17 patients, whereas 9.48 ± 8.07 mmol calcium was absorbed per week from dialysis fluid in 8 patients. Ionic calcium was generally absorbed from dialysis fluid, whereas complexed calcium (the difference of total and ionic calcium in dialysis fluid) was removed from the body. The concentration of total calcium in plasma increased slightly during dialysis. The mass of total and ionic calcium in extracellular fluid decreased during dialysis in patients with the dialytic removal of calcium from the body and did not change in patients with the absorption of calcium from dialysis fluid.

Conclusions
We conclude that about one third of patients on dialysis with calcium 1.35 mmol/L in dialysis fluid may absorb calcium from dialysis fluid and therefore individual prescriptions of calcium concentration in d
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here is the mayo clinic description
READ THIS PAGE
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353145
Aortic valve stenosis
If you have aortic valve stenosis, consider being evaluated and treated at a medical center with a multidisciplinary team of cardiologists and other doctors and medical staff trained and experienced in evaluating and treating heart valve disease. This team can work closely with you to determine the most appropriate treatment for your condition.
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sculptor said:
question:
anyone have experience with aortic valve calcium deposits

from a plumbing perspective, the 4 heart valves seem to be check valves
if so then
could/would calcium deposits make the valve less effective?
then
should I want to eliminate the calcium deposits
what approach would be best?
chelating agents?
or vitamin supplements like K2

dangers of chelating agents?
...........................
this is uncharted territory for me so any input would most likely fill in the charts?
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Most of the B complex and vitamin C are chelating agents.
 
candy said:
Most of the B complex and vitamin C are chelating agents.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#Chemical_composition_and_properties
Mechanism of action
E-NTPDase activity
Research also shows that mate preparations can alter the concentration of members of the ecto-nucleoside triphosphate diphosphohydrolase (E-NTPDase) family, resulting in an elevated level of extracellular ATP, ADP, and AMP. This was found with chronic ingestion (15 days) of an aqueous mate extract, and may lead to a novel mechanism for manipulation of vascular regenerative factors, i.e., treating heart disease.[medical citation needed]
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
Drop your heart off at the shop, get a rental. They'll get it back to you in three days unless they find further issues.
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Do they have other options you can tick off for a replacement valve other than pig heart valve?

That might be problem for some

:)
 
Howdy boys. I just started a daily VK2 supplement due to some very optimistic recent research on its role in slowing progression of acinar adenocarcinoma prostate cancer. While researching this, I found this link regarding its role in heart valve stenosis:

Slower Progress of Aortic Valve Calcification With Vitamin K Supplementation

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.116.027011

VK2 also appears to stop bone loss in post menopausal women as per a Japanese study and to preserve bone density during leuprolide chem therapy for acinar adenocarcinoma. I am planning to try this as an alternative to Prolia.

So is that fun enough, friend sculptor? B-)
 
me too------K2
and the question
Why only on the aortic valve?
remains unanswered

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