In other words, guessing wildly based on imagination running amok while knowing nothing of what you speak?
ALMA sees old galaxies before they merged. two ways to look back into the past?
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dear ex chemist: read his paper and comment on the substance please. remember his first name is "Guenther", perhaps he read Alberts work in the original Swiss language, Einstein at the beginning was an unknown dilletante too.
The Paper, like this thread, proposes an early, fundamental role of time as a dimension, not as a by product of existence.
on this thread was proposed an all- directional TIMESPACE to exist even before spacetime and Energytime before our time period with its matter.
The Kletetschka theory falls within those parameters.
Wizard of W:
12 dimension? time will tell.
exchemist
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Nope. I read papers by people whose credentials indicate it might be worth my time. The internet is full of dodgy stuff, so one needs to apply a filter of some kind before devoting time to these things, especially a topic as esoteric as this.
I've looked him up. He's a Czech apparently. He may or may not read German. But I'm a little sceptical that someone with a geophysics background will have the necessary knowledge .https://en.everybodywiki.com/G%C3%BCnther_Kletetschka
I also note my reservations seem to be borne out by the PhysOrg piece on this: https://phys.org/news/2025-06-theory-dimensions-space-secondary-effect.html which has had the following highly unusual editorial disclaimer appended to it:
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Editor's note (6/24/2025): While Kletetschka's theory of three-dimensional time presents an intriguing new framework, its results have not yet been accepted by the broader scientific community. The theory is still in the early stages of scrutiny and has not been published in leading physics journals or independently verified through experiments or peer-reviewed replication. Publishing in Reports in Advances of Physical Sciences (World Scientific Publishing), while a legitimate step, is not sufficient for a theory making such bold claims. This journal is relatively low-impact and niche, and its peer review does not match the rigorous scrutiny applied by top-tier journals like Physical Review Letters or Nature Physics. For a paradigm-shifting idea to gain acceptance, it must withstand critical evaluation by the wider physics community, be published in highly regarded journals, and provide reproducible predictions that align with existing evidence—standards this work has not yet met.
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While it seems World Scientific Publishing is not on Beall's List as predatory, it does not command great respect for its peer review process.
So thanks for alerting me to the idea, but I think I'm going to give this a miss until it gets published in a more serious journal.
surely you must see the irony in the situation where the substance of a new theory is not discussed on an " alternative /pseudo" science forum, because it is not yet published in a top establishment journal.
Perhaps it is in Gunther K s Czech genes that prompts him to dabble in advanced theories, given that luminaries like Johann Kepler , Albert Einstein too did seminal work in Prague, in his home country.
As to Kletetschka s 3 dimensions of time, would time acquire those at the beginning of our universe or is ?
exchemist
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The point I made is that, as it would take me a lot of work to read and understand this paper, I'm not willing to put in that effort for some guy without credentials and with no rigorous peer review of his work.
Nobody owes this person their attention. It has to be earned.
Your erudite contributions are always valued by all. The gist of the theory can be seen from the abstract and write up of the articles and detailed analysis is not necessarily required . During the lengthy discussions here, the concept of a "pre- Big Bang time" dubbed energytime and timespace ( as opposed to "spacetime") evolved.
This Alaska university paper advocates a primary role of the time dimension , and was posted here to stimulate discussion on the pre- eminence/priority of time and energy, There always must have been energy and time for it to exist in. But did the "pre-big bang time" have, or need to have directions, dimensions?
This Alaska university paper advocates a primary role of the time dimension , and was posted here to stimulate discussion on the pre- eminence/priority of time and energy, There always must have been energy and time for it to exist in. But did the "pre-big bang time" have, or need to have directions, dimensions?
Wizard of Whatever
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A further thought I just had is that the probability dimensions may actually, in some way, create the extra time and space dimensions in a physical multiverse.
Occam s razor at work: Extra time does not need creating, it always existed already . The terms " timespace" for "energytime" created on this thread imply a kind of all filling volume. Any other of the 9 other dimensions you mention must be curled up inside of that.
P. Dirac theorized earlier about his Dirac "Sea and Hole" (s) implying 2+1 dimensions so: Keep it simple sharp and clear.
Wizard of Whatever
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My final thought is that you only need 3 space and 1 time plus probability functions , to completely describe an apparent universe of more.
yes, if you look at the images on previous posts such as #1003, the nascent 3d universe is expanding into the timespace or energytime. That "urraum" must therefore have at least these 3 dimension to accommodate the movement in 3 different directions. Somehow like a snowflake which has 6 #arms#, our universe condensing on the triple dimensions "seeds" that were apparently always present
Perhaps there are signals on the way that our new super instruments, next generation # ALMAs# will receive, bridging past the Big Bang into the deep past.
Perhaps there are signals on the way that our new super instruments, next generation # ALMAs# will receive, bridging past the Big Bang into the deep past.
Looking at that question with 6 years worth of hindsight, we since discovered the "zero velocity point field" in the quantum world. filling the spacetime # 1.
exchemist
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What is that? Might I know it by another name?
What is Zero Point Energy? The Quantum Secret of Nothingness Explained
At first glance, nothing seems simpler than nothing. When we imagine empty space, we often picture a silent, dark void—an absolute emptiness where no ...
www.sciencenewstoday.org
exchemist
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Eh? There's nothing about "velocity" here. And zero point energy is just the energy of the ground state of a quantum system. It's not a "field".What is Zero Point Energy? The Quantum Secret of Nothingness Explained
At first glance, nothing seems simpler than nothing. When we imagine empty space, we often picture a silent, dark void—an absolute emptiness where no ...
What are you talking about?
Sorry, reading the old posts I understood your Question about energy referred to the state of affairs in the #1 field of the illustration, referring to infinitely old "timespace" and "energytime".
Energy not linked to matter or its dynamics. That is the subject of the links.
Trying to avoid speculation about the pre "Big Bam" activity that would drift into the Religion forums.
Energy not linked to matter or its dynamics. That is the subject of the links.
Trying to avoid speculation about the pre "Big Bam" activity that would drift into the Religion forums.
exchemist
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I wasn't asking about energy. I was asking what you meant by "zero velocity point field", in post 1132.
I know about the zero point energy of the vacuum, but that isn't a field and has nothing to do with velocity, hence my puzzlement.
exchemist
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I’m not sure a “pre universe vacuum” means anything. In the Big Bang model, spacetime itself expands from a small state. There is nothing “outside” spacetime.