"Alchemist's" Periodic Table (not)

[exchemist]

RoccoR chose, a few days ago, to post an "alchemist's periodic table" on my thread about lapis lazuli. Here it is, with his comments:

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So I started with the "Alchemist." I thought it was interesting that the Alchemist began their "Periodic Table" long before Dmitri Mendeleev invented the first of the modern-day "Table" (1869) in use today.

I thought it was interesting the subscript notation on the Alchemy Table: "omnia unvs est" ≈ "Everything is Everywhere."
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This table has clearly been made up by somebody in the late c.20th, as it contains supposed "alchemical" symbols for a host of elements that were not discovered until the latter part of that century.

There was a footnote to the post, referring to one Frater Albertus. This charlatan was in reality one Albert Richard Reidel, who founded something he called the Paracelsus Research Society in Salt Lake City (where else?), now defunct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frater_Albertus

There is no evidence that alchemists had any concept of a periodic table long before Mendele'ev, as RoccoR suggests, let alone one including transuranic elements, obviously!

It seems our friend has been had.

 

[DaveC426913]

I saw this.

I was considering posting the Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense as an adjunct, but decided it would obfuscate more than clarify - troll more than enlighten.

 

[exchemist]

I saw this.

I was considering posting the Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense as an adjunct, but decided it would obfuscate more than clarify - troll more than enlighten.

Yes I wasn't sure what to do with this but in the end I thought, as it was posted in the hard science area, I should at least point out it is balderdash. There is far too much misinformation flying around in our age without people spreading more of it without challenge.

 

[C C]

RoccoR chose, a few days ago, to post an "alchemist's periodic table" on my thread about lapis lazuli. Here it is, with his comments:

QUOTE
So I started with the "Alchemist." I thought it was interesting that the Alchemist began their "Periodic Table" long before Dmitri Mendeleev invented the first of the modern-day "Table" (1869) in use today.

I thought it was interesting the subscript notation on the Alchemy Table: "omnia unvs est" ≈ "Everything is Everywhere."
UNQUOTE

This table has clearly been made up by somebody in the late c.20th, as it contains supposed "alchemical" symbols for a host of elements that were not discovered until the latter part of that century.

There was a footnote to the post, referring to one Frater Albertus. This charlatan was in reality one Albert Richard Reidel, who founded something he called the Paracelsus Research Society in Salt Lake City (where else?), now defunct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frater_Albertus

There is no evidence that alchemists had any concept of a periodic table long before Mendele'ev, as RoccoR suggests, let alone one including transuranic elements, obviously!

It seems our friend has been had.

Yah, when I came across him advocating or proposing that, it finally clarified the ambiguous MO or thought orientation of RoccoR a bit for me. Even though he's been a member for well over a decade, he's one of many that I can initially draw a blank on memory-wise when intermittently encountering them.
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[exchemist]

I saw this.

I was considering posting the Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense as an adjunct, but decided it would obfuscate more than clarify - troll more than enlighten.

Having checked out the link, I must say a periodic table of cheeses doesn't strike me as that crazy. One could certainly benefit from some way of organising them all. The French have a sort of system, I think, pate molle, pate cuite etc. My son has a mug with a periodic table of swearing, which I think he was given when he decided chemistry was not for him.

 

[TheVat]

Yah, when I came across him advocating or proposing that, it finally clarified the ambiguous MO or thought orientation of RoccoR a bit for me. Even though he's been a member for well over a decade, he's one of many that I can initially draw a blank on memory-wise when intermittently encountering them.
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As I was taking a lonely Tylenol I noticed that RoccoR is a palindrome. Like my friend, Emily Lime, I wonder if being the same backwards as forwards could play havoc with one's understanding of chronology.

 

[TheVat]

Having checked out the link, I must say a periodic table of cheeses doesn't strike me as that crazy. One could certainly benefit from some way of organising them all.

The ongoing threat of disorganized cheese is not one to be taken lightly. Though the Swiss might try to poke holes in such concerns.

 

[exchemist]

The ongoing threat of disorganized cheese is not one to be taken lightly. Though the Swiss might try to poke holes in such concerns.

Yes, Emmental is not one of my favourites: rubbery, bland and too sweet.But the Tom and Jerry holes are fun, I suppose. There is a similar one I came across in The Hague: Leerdammer. I looked it up, to discover it was invented by a bloke with the bogus-sounding name of Cees Boterkooper. Dutch for "cheese" is "kaas". So his name is close to Mr. Cheese Buttermarketer. I mean fuck off. Has to be made up, surely?

Though I do recall being told that a number of Dutch names come from their low-level resistance to Napoleonic rule in the c.18th. One of the ways they got their own back on the invaders was to give made-up names, in Dutch, to the French administrators who didn't speak Dutch: Mr Fishingrod, Mr Cartwheel etc. The Dutch have been invaded so many times they have this kind of thing down to a fine art. To this day you will find old Dutchmen who will deliberately give false directions to German tourists, just to bugger them up a bit, heh heh.