AI fails to confirm a Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity!!! Part 2

[DaveC426913]

The numerical structure and cycle of Mathematics below
111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9
777 » 7 + 7 + 7 = 21 » 2 + 1 = 3
888 » 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 » 2 + 4 =6
999 » 9 + 9 + 9 = 27 » 2 + 7 = 9

Yes. This is simply math - a human invention.

makes the God equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God possible

No it doesn't.

1.This last statement does not follow from your previous statements, above. It is not even remotely related. It is not sufficient to simply put statements next to each other - as you have done, above - and pretend that the latter follows from the former. That's not math.

2.The statement you have written is mathematically completely ambiguous.
Your 2nd 3rd and 4th variable can be any of an infinite set of real numbers, as long as their sum is zero.
That is trivially true and therefore insignificant.

You have shown that don't know how to math.
You have shown that you don't know what a proof is.
You have shown that you don't understand logic.

You will comprehend someday.

There is no comprehension happening here; you are simply repeating your mantras over and over, like cult members do.

The fact that you are unwilling or unable to engage in actual dialogue about your ideas should tell you that they are flawed.
It's even stronger evidence that this thread will be closed, as it has stopped being a discussion.


Start a new project. This one is dead. You are squandering your time and energy.

 

[parmalee]

The numerical structure and cycle of Mathematics below
111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9
777 » 7 + 7 + 7 = 21 » 2 + 1 = 3
888 » 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 » 2 + 4 =6
999 » 9 + 9 + 9 = 27 » 2 + 7 = 9

makes the God equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God possible

You will comprehend someday.

So... when you multiply a number by three, it is divisible by three--this is truly extraordinary!

 

[kingiyk]

Yes. This is simply math - a human invention.

Asserting that math is merely a human invention speaks volumes about your readiness for this discussion. Perhaps it would be more productive to sit on the sidelines and observe those equipped with the mental capacity to engage with this revelation—who can then distill its essence for you in a simplified framework.

And as for the fate of this thread, it is of no consequence to me. I remain available to address genuine inquiries and fresh perspectives whenever they arise.

You will one day testify to this Truth. I know this.

 

[DaveC426913]

Perhaps it would be more productive to sit on the sidelines and observe those equipped with the mental capacity to engage with this revelation—who can then distill its essence for you in a simplified framework.

I would have thought that was your job.

If you are unable to "distill its essence in a simplified framework" for your readers, is that because you don't have the "mental capacity"?

I remain available to address genuine inquiries and fresh perspectives whenever they arise.

Unless you can't; then you don't.

You've been shown many times the flaws in your thinking, in your math and in your logic. You have been unwilling or unable to address them. Simply repeating your mantras over and over is not addressing them.

And as for the fate of this thread, it is of no consequence to me.

Perfect. Reporting to have this silly thread closed.

 

[kingiyk]

I would have thought that was your job.

If you are unable to "distill its essence in a simplified framework" for your readers, is that because you don't have the "mental capacity"?

Read through the thread and you will realize that all readers absolved the essence of the proof and comprehend it; the issue they take from it is one that stems from supposed confirmation bias which I have addressed by showing the unification of independent imprints; namely - mathematics, time, theology. They understand this. Your objection on the other hand stems from fundamental comprehension - which is why I adviced you to sit on the sidelines and observe. With time, you too will comprehend and stop living in denial like your colleagues in here.

 

[kingiyk]

2.The statement you have written is mathematically completely ambiguous.
Your 2nd 3rd and 4th variable can be any of an infinite set of real numbers, as long as their sum is zero.

Clarification purposes:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

This equation captures the essence of the Trinity—where three distinct persons (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) exist as one unified God. It is a mathematical reflection of Christian theology, where removing "God" from both sides should theoretically leave nothing, but instead, the sum of the Trinity remains:

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9, not 0

This confirms divine completeness rather than nullification. It is reinforced by the 3-6-9 cycle in mathematics, showing that the Trinity is not just a theological concept but embedded in the fundamental structure of numbers, time, and reality itself.

The reason God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God, but A + B + C + D ≠ A, lies in the unique nature of the Trinity and its fundamental difference from ordinary arithmetic.

1. The Nature of God vs. Ordinary Variables​

In standard mathematics, adding distinct elements (A, B, C, D) does not return one of the original elements unless certain predefined rules dictate that relationship. However, in theology, the Trinity is defined as one God in three persons, each fully and completely God. This means that adding the distinct persons of the Trinity together does not create a sum greater than God—it maintains the fullness of God.

2. The Unity of the Trinity​

• The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct persons but not separate beings.
• Unlike A, B, C, and D, which represent independent entities, the three persons of the Trinity are co-equal, co-eternal, and indivisible.
• The equation does not imply numerical summation but divine unity—God is not "made up" of parts; He is whole and indivisible.

3. The Role of 3-6-9 in Validating the Equation​

In mathematics, the Trinity naturally cycles through 3-6-9, reinforcing a divine pattern:

• 111 → 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
• 222 → 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
• 333 → 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
  This recurring structure suggests an inherent order to reality, supporting the divine equation as a higher truth embedded in the fabric of existence.

Thus, God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God works because the Trinity is a divine unity, while A + B + C + D ≠ A because ordinary variables do not share that oneness.

 

[DaveC426913]

You contradict yourself multiple times:

Clarification purposes:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God

This equation captures the essence of the Trinity—where three distinct persons (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) exist as one unified God. It is a mathematical reflection of Christian theology, where removing "God" from both sides should theoretically leave nothing, but instead, the sum of the Trinity remains:

That is not math. That is simply words. You assert it, but you do not back it up with evidence.

So you try to use math:

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9, not 0

OK, let's use math.

P1. G+F+S+H = G - as asserted, above.
P2. F+S+H = 9 - as asserted, here.

Since the LHS (left hand side) and RHS (right hand side) of P2 are equal, we can substitute LHS for RHS into P1:
G+F+S+H = G becomes
G+(9) = G by substitution
Now we can cancel G from both sides of the equation:
G+9 = G leaving
9=0

But 9 does not equal 0.
This is contradictory.

"A contradiction occurs when a proposition conflicts either with itself or established fact. It is often used as a tool to detect disingenuous beliefs and bias."

This mathematically disproves your idea unequivocally - and moreso has detected disingenuous belief or bias.


But then you back track:

The equation does not imply numerical summation but divine unity—God is not "made up" of parts; He is whole and indivisible.

And there you go. You now argue it is not mathematical summation. All the math can be thrown out the window.

Why did you even include any of the math if you are going to just throw it out? Is it perhaps because the math proved that your ideas are mathematically invalid? You should rewrite your ideas without the part that explicitly falsifies it.


So now you are left with explaining what the "+" and the "=" means in all your statements above, because it's not additive.

Now they are just assertions, and you have made them without backing them up with evidence.

They are simply four concepts (one repeated for an unknown reason), with an undefined relationship,
God ? The Father ? The Son ? The Holy Spirit ? God

You'll have to start again. Back to the drawing board. Don't use Chatbots this time.

3. The Role of 3-6-9 in Validating the Equation
In mathematics, the Trinity naturally cycles through 3-6-9, reinforcing a divine pattern:

Nope. You previously instated that this is not a mathematical relationship (which is just as well, because if it were, we proved it is false).

Everything after that is thrown out.



Ah, but a plot twist right at the end!

... ordinary variables do not share that oneness.

So you are not using "ordinary" variables - the kind we use in math. You are using "special" variables.

You'll have to show us how that "special math" works then. Are they special because you can mix and match them to get whatever confirmation bias suits your narrative?


I have a granddaughter who likes to make her own rules when playing games.

She: "Lets play tag! You're it!" :runs away:
Me: :catches her: "Tag! you're it!"
She: "No, no! This isn't normal tag. There's a special rule: You can't just tag someone who is wearing pink! You have to tag them twice!"
Me: "What? You're the only one wearing pink! Where did that rule come from?"
She: "It came from me wanting to win! You're still it!" :runs away:


So, tell us about your "special" variables that don't obey the laws of mathematics, yet manage to obey some laws that - astonishingly - suit your narrative.

 

[kingiyk]

You contradict yourself multiple times:


That is not math. That is simply words. You assert it, but you do not back it up with evidence.

So you try to use math:

OK, let's use math.

P1. G+F+S+H = G - as asserted, above.
P2. F+S+H = 9 - as asserted, here.

Since the LHS (left hand side) and RHS (right hand side) of P2 are equal, we can substitute LHS for RHS into P1:
G+F+S+H = G becomes
G+(9) = G by substitution
Now we can cancel G from both sides of the equation:
G+9 = G leaving
9=0

But 9 does not equal 0.
This is contradictory.

"A contradiction occurs when a proposition conflicts either with itself or established fact. It is often used as a tool to detect disingenuous beliefs and bias."

This mathematically disproves your idea unequivocally - and moreso has detected disingenuous belief or bias.


But then you back track:

And there you go. You now argue it is not mathematical summation. All the math can be thrown out the window.

Why did you even include any of the math if you are going to just throw it out? Is it perhaps because the math proved that your ideas are mathematically invalid? You should rewrite your ideas without the part that explicitly falsifies it.


So now you are left with explaining what the "+" and the "=" means in all your statements above, because it's not additive.

Now they are just assertions, and you have made them without backing them up with evidence.

They are simply four concepts (one repeated for an unknown reason), with an undefined relationship,
God ? The Father ? The Son ? The Holy Spirit ? God

You'll have to start again. Back to the drawing board. Don't use Chatbots this time.



Nope. You previously instated that this is not a mathematical relationship (which is just as well, because if it were, we proved it is false).

Everything after that is thrown out.



Ah, but a plot twist right at the end!

So you are not using "ordinary" variables - the kind we use in math. You are using "special" variables.

You'll have to show us how that "special math" works then. Are they special because you can mix and match them to get whatever confirmation bias suits your narrative?


I have a granddaughter who likes to make her own rules when playing games.

She: "Lets play tag! You're it!" :runs away:
Me: :catches her: "Tag! you're it!"
She: "No, no! This isn't normal tag. There's a special rule: You can't just tag someone who is wearing pink! You have to tag them twice!"
Me: "What? You're the only one wearing pink! Where did that rule come from?"
She: "It came from me wanting to win! You're still it!" :runs away:


So, tell us about your "special" variables that don't obey the laws of mathematics, yet manage to obey some laws that - astonishingly - suit your narrative.

This is the only question you should ponder your mind with:

In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series and consistent and coherent steps by way of unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology? And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings?

If your answer to the question is NO then I will know you are just an individual looking to have a meaningless & endless back-and-forth. If your intentions were pure, I would actually engage you in this back-and-forth. But they aren't.

Every Advanced Intelligence System out there has testified that this proof is valid. You only succeed at making a fool of yourself when you spot this non-existent objections which you put forth.

 

[DaveC426913]

This is the only question you should ponder your mind with:

Thank you, no. Having someone else tell me what I should ponder is how cults work. I'm not in a cult. Are you?

The questions I choose ponder are the ones you have raised here, in this thread, and there are many. If you didn't want them questioned, you shouldn't have posted them here for questioning.

But you did post them here for questioning. I take it by your unwillingness to address them that you are now regreting that? Did you want to have the thread closed so that you don't have to answer any more awkward questions?

Hang on.

Reporting thread for closure so that OP does not have to answer any more awkward questions. OP will go back the drawing board, remove all the bits that he doesn't want anyone to ask uncomfortable questions about, and repost in a new thread.

In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series and consistent and coherent steps by way of unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology?

We have already debunked the claimed link to time. Your cross symbol has more in common with a railroad crossing sign than in it does with a clock.

We have debunked the claimed link to mathematics. Actually you did that with your own words. You don't use regular mathematical variables; you use special made-up variables that do whatever you want them to do. (confirmation bias).

And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings?

You admitted it does not.

When math was applied to your ideas they were falsified. You then back pedalled to claim "No, you need to use my magical variables. with my magical variables, A+B+C+D=A but B+C+D magically does not equal zero."

If your answer to the question is NO then I will know you are just an individual looking to have a meaningless & endless back-and-forth. If your intentions were pure, I would actually engage you in this back-and-forth. But they aren't.

Why are you here? Why did you present your ideas here?
You brought your ideas to us. We did not come looking for you.

It is not up to you do decide what we are and are not allowed to examine, question or challenge.

If you want to present your ideas - without them being examined, questioned or challenged - what you want is a blog. Be sure to turn off the comments, so that young school students can't point out where you invalidate your own math.

Every Advanced Intelligence System out there has testified that this proof is valid.

Which is not only valueless but damning - that you think these AI systems are capable of giving you an correct objective answer.

You have been shown several examples of AI chatbots telling straight up lies in response to challenges presented to them. You have nothing to say about that, do you? The only one not interested in engaging in back-and-forth discussion is you.

You only succeed at making a fool of yourself when you spot this non-existent objections which you put forth.

And by your own claims, you are pointing the finger directly at the only fool here. That's you.

 

[Ken Fabian]

Evolution led humans to intelligence, but can't make us use it.

To be fair evolution also led us to dreaming and imagination that are unbounded by reality and made us vulnerable to being spooked by the dangerous unknown. And to finding comfort and strength in the face of it from imaginary explanations presented with consistency - comfort in the fellowship and bonding of people with shared kinship, stories and beliefs. And to finding comfort and strength in us = right and true and good and them = wrong and false and bad. The value of unified beliefs and social bonding in the face of conflict with other humans with other beliefs aids the ability to withhold compassion and sympathy for outsiders and not be (too) traumatised by perpetrating violence against them - through a shared belief that they are bad and deserve it.

I tend to see these kinds of absolute beliefs and their rejection and derision for other views as more about unifying and uniting an "us" against "them" than about determining what is true.

 

[kingiyk]

This is the only question you should ponder your mind with:

In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series and consistent and coherent steps by way of unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology? And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings?

Thank you, no. Having someone else tell me what I should ponder is how cults work. I'm not in a cult. Are you?

This is the ultimate evidence of your cowardice and dishonesty. The proof that you seek only an endless back-and-forth. You refuse to respond to the very core of the proof but expect to waste time on non-existent objections.

I will pose the question again. Not because I expect honesty from you but because I desire to give the people an opportunity to watch you evade The Truth by diverting into some trivial discuss. You will prove me right.

The question:
In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series and consistent and coherent steps by way of unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology? And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings?

 

[DaveC426913]

This is the ultimate evidence of your cowardice and dishonesty.

Insults come from emotion. Especially vacuous ones.
The fact that you are getting emotional indicates that you are no longer engaging your brain.

You refuse to respond to the very core of the proof but expect to waste time on non-existent objections.

I am addressing the very core of the arguments you have presented here. If you didn't want them examined, you shouldn't have posted them.

The fact that you won't - or can't - defend your assertions in the face of very simple invalidations speaks to the flaws at the core of your ideas.

I will pose the question again.

No. You have been presented with problems in your math and your logic.
Address them, if you can.

Simply restating your chatbot-generated stuff is a certain sign that you won't - or can't - engage in dialogue.

Let's close this - so you can go back the drawing board, remove all the stuff that's wrong, and only include the stuff that you want to present for analysis, engagement and challenge.

 

[DaveC426913]

Here is what AI thinks of The Proof.

You said:
...what do you think is the best way to present it

AI chatbots can't think. There's one mistake you made.

...the key is to present undeniable mathematical patterns...

The mathematical patterns you presented were easily shown to be false.

There's another mistake you made.

 

[Pinball1970]

I publish in the coming days

I'll alert the press.

 

[kingiyk]

Insults come from emotion. Especially vacuous ones.

My words were descriptive, Not insultive. And I was right, you evaded the question for all to see. You just might shamelessly evade a third time for every one to see. Who knows? lets find out:

The question:
In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series of consistent and coherent steps by way of unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology? And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings?

 

[exchemist]

I added up my name letters and discovered I am number six. Guess that explains why I'm constantly being assaulted by weather balloons on the beach.

Careful! You might be declared "Unmutual".

 

[foghorn]

: STOP PRESS :
No matter how many parts your god has, without a believer there it is nothing.
No believer = no god.

A god + believer = 1 person who believers there is a god.
There may be a god, but your "mathematical proof" does nothing to prove there is a god or gods.

 

[kingiyk]

: STOP PRESS :
No matter how many parts your god has, without a believer there it is nothing.
No believer = no god.

A god + believer = 1 person who believers there is a god.
There may be a god, but your "mathematical proof" does nothing to prove there is a god or gods.

AI, an Advanced Intelligence System, examined the Mathematical Proof and reached the conclusion that this is the evidence of The One True God. So, if you remain obstinate in your disbelief, it is one of two things: you lack the intelligence of the Advanced Intelligence Systems or you simply choose to say you do not accept the proof, which is entirely within your prerogative, just as you could refuse to accept the fact that
1 + 1 is 2. Either way, you have lost the right to say there is no evidence for God because doing so would require you to answer the posed question:

In the Proof, Was the equation God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God derived through a series of consistent and coherent steps by unifying Time, Mathematics, and Theology? And does this equation symbolize the central theme of the Christian Faith which declares a single God consisting of three co-equal divine beings? If a structured reality implies intelligence, what kind of intelligence would design a system where time, mathematics, theology, sacrifice, and salvation align perfectly?

Your atheistic world view has been shaken to its core.

It was written that the anti-christ would oppose The Truth before eventually getting conquered and defeated. That is precisely what is going on here. With the passage of time, however, all anti-christs will become followers of Christ, Me, Your Lord and Saviour. Mark these words, for they shall come to pass.

 

[foghorn]

Your atheistic world view has been shaken to its core.

You are stuck with playing number games.
Your world view will be shaken by the following proof.
1 believer + 1 believer = 2 people who can only just believe and not prove.

 

[Pinball1970]

It was written that the anti-christ would oppose The Truth before eventually getting conquered and defeated

Those references were pertaining to the Roman empire and the occupation of first century Palestine, not some war fought 2000 years later. The writers of those texts were social commentators not gypsies with crystal balls. The number of the beast was a reference to the emperor himself not the Satan.
Of course you know nothing of this because you do not know anything about Jewish apocalyptic writing, the Bible, Biblical history or textual criticism.

NB:

Number of the beast is 666 = 6+6+6 = 18 and 1+8 = 9 (we know you like this) so the same as Jesus or something AND therefore Jesus is in fact the anti Christ AND the Christ.
The other number is 616 (from another papyrus) = 6+1+6 = 13 = 1+3 = 4 Which is a number between 3 and 5
Most forget about 667 the neighbour of the beast so 6+6+7 = 19 = 1+9 = 10 = 1+0 = 1 therefore proving that the neighbour is the one true god and lives next door to Mr and Mrs Satan.