You mean a sound wave? Interesting! Could be, could be. But what could cause someone to forget such a sound wave, or would you argue that they can still remember it?
Those that are in tune with this sound , Native Peoples , would .
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Those that are in tune with this sound , Native Peoples , would .
Write4U
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Yes they are, look at the second board which matches the colors up by a bar.
We see the wrong color because our brain tries to compensate for the shadow and that's why we see B lighter than it is. That is why it is called an optical illusion.....
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What is this " B " colour .
Write4U
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The same as A
Which is ?
What do you mean by, "The wrong colour?" Are you implying that there is a, "correct" colour?
Write4U
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a specific shade of gray.
The artist who drew it used the very same shade of gray for both A and B. It is the shadow which fools the brain into seeing a lighter shade of gray in B than in A.TheFrogger, said,
What do you mean by, "The wrong colour?" Are you implying that there is a, "correct" colour?
Note: B is not a lighter shade of gray than A! It just appears that way....
That is the illusion....
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a specific shade of gray.
The artist who drew it used the very same shade of gray for both A and B. It is the shadow which fools the brain into seeing a lighter shade of gray in B than in A.
That is the illusion....
So what though .
There still has to be a physical object existence .
Write4U
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True, but it is the brain which is misinterpreting what the eye cones are transmitting, which is the same shade for A and B. This is a limitation of the brain. It is a result of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, programmed deep into our memory and associative cognition.
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And so what though ?
Write4U
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Theism makes the claim that intelligence can exist without physical objects.
It just depends on what distinction you make between "divine", "natural", "human", and "artificial".
I vote for a "natural quasi-intelligent spacetime potential", from which human and all other intelligences emerged and evolved.
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Intelligence can't evolve without a physical platform on which to take hold , a planet for example .
A physical place that is stable enough to allow life to take hold beyond fundamental life forms .
No
Difficulty, but not that no human can understand. AI will always be mastered by humans, even if they are built to perform better than us. Their performance hinges on humans maintaining them, however. Unless we create a self-sustaining/maintaining AI system. And then, we will find ourselves in a different place. (metaphorically speaking)
Write4U
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I submit that the solar system itself is a quasi-intelligent self-assembled construct. It doesn't fly apart does it?
Humans don't fly apart and that has nothing to do with our brains.
Write4U
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Anil Seth says; "You don't have to be smart to feel pain, but you probably have to be alive".
I go one further. Today's computers are quite able to tell you the status of their internal health, and warn you if something is "wrong". That is a quasi-intelligent self-assessment.
I go one further. Today's computers are quite able to tell you the status of their internal health, and warn you if something is "wrong". That is a quasi-intelligent self-assessment.
Agreed , to your first statement .
Efficiency is not the fundamental problem here .
Wisdom is .
Write4U
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Why should an AI not be able to learn wisdom? Is there something special about being able to anticipate future results from a current action? It is a matter of knowledge, no?
Mathematics is particularly suited to calculate future implications.
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Only in the speed of calculation .
It is a matter knowledge.
It is , but only if the mathematics is based on three dimensional , physical objects . Not 1 and/or two dimensional mathematical theories .( Which can never exist , physically , ever ) .
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