A Question of Possibility

Whereas it is certainly true that we conceive of possibility mentally, it would seem that the notion of "what is possible" goes back to the object.

For instance, Baron Max, you bring up the log in the tree. Clearly, the tree had something that allowed for said log to be harvested from it, yes? If it didn't, such would not be possible, yes?

We should also speak of -realized- possibilities. For instance, it is not true that simply because we can broadly envision a pink unicorn popping out of a tree that it is possible that such could happen. Rather, the tree would refute this notion. As it is really the -tree- that is refuting this, then can't we say that possibilities inhere less in the mind, and more in the objects themselves?

And right there is the reason that I don't like "philosophy". It begins to go off on weird, odd, strange, bullshit symantics as if it's really "philosophy". It ain't!! It's just playing with words and trying to form them into something that is not, and never was, intended .......and then arguing endlessly using the very same words to do nothing but continue the argument.

Wasted, foolish effort ...and not worthy of anyone's attention except .....dare I say it? ..philosophers!

Baron Max
 
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So you think that one cannot reduce possibility to any one object, but must consider all the objects it could possibly relate to for the possibility? So it is not enough that merely "wood can burn", but "wood also requires some oxygen to burn" and the potential to burn would be between them?

The problem with that is you limit the possibilities of each object to known interactions, when objects obviously have unknown properties in other, potential systems. It is safer and more accurate to only talk about the properties of known things in known systems.

Also, there are emergent behaviors that are unpredictable until a certain number of things are together, or are in a particular system.
 
And right there is the reason that I don't like "philosophy". It begins to go off on weird, odd, strange, bullshit symantics as if it's really "philosophy". It ain't!! It's just playing with words and trying to form them into something that is not, and never was, intended .......and then arguing endlessly using the very same words to do nothing but continue the argument.

Wasted, foolish effort ...and not worthy of anyone's attention except .....dare I say it? ..philosophers!

Baron Max

And yet Philosophers described sciences before they were discovered, inspired art before it was conceived, gave birth to the enlightenment and tempered the minds of Albert Einstein, Ben Franklin, Da Vinci, really countless other "useful" persons.
 
And yet Philosophers described sciences before they were discovered, inspired art before it was conceived, gave birth to the enlightenment and tempered the minds of Albert Einstein, Ben Franklin, Da Vinci, really countless other "useful" persons.

I disagree. Most of those individuals were "scientists" and "do-ers", not talkers of continual bullshit and worthless play-games of symantics.

Baron Max
 
"Not only the god play dice, but the dice are loaded."

Word-game and semantics.

All of the above were philosophers. Yes they were other things, too.

Mostly philosopher-only people inspire others. Perhaps your right - on first glance fairly unimportant sands to conquering minds pebbles, to geniuses marbles, to the huge rocks of revolutionaries. They do however, fill in the spaces quite nicely.

Still isn't it quite nice there are people in this day and age, are paid only to "think" and perhaps write it down. Nothing else? I love it.

Anyone can be a philosopher, so few even try.
 
When we say something is possible, where does this possibility exist?

Is it in, for lack of a better term, a Possibility Heaven? Wherein resides all possibilities?

Or does it exist as a "possibility seed" within the objects which are now existent?

Possibility derives from the ability for recombination. As it seems that there are infinite amounts of recombination available in this universe, we say that there are infinite possibilities. Recombination can occur in forms of types of matter or energy interactions.

These possibilities do not 'exist' per se. Either that or they are all existing at once.
 
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