Killjoy:
Potential and possibility seem to describe the same thing.
Potential and possibility seem to describe the same thing.
Whereas it is certainly true that we conceive of possibility mentally, it would seem that the notion of "what is possible" goes back to the object.
For instance, Baron Max, you bring up the log in the tree. Clearly, the tree had something that allowed for said log to be harvested from it, yes? If it didn't, such would not be possible, yes?
We should also speak of -realized- possibilities. For instance, it is not true that simply because we can broadly envision a pink unicorn popping out of a tree that it is possible that such could happen. Rather, the tree would refute this notion. As it is really the -tree- that is refuting this, then can't we say that possibilities inhere less in the mind, and more in the objects themselves?
Swivel:
So you think that one cannot reduce possibility to any one object, but must consider all the objects it could possibly relate to for the possibility? So it is not enough that merely "wood can burn", but "wood also requires some oxygen to burn" and the potential to burn would be between them?
And right there is the reason that I don't like "philosophy". It begins to go off on weird, odd, strange, bullshit symantics as if it's really "philosophy". It ain't!! It's just playing with words and trying to form them into something that is not, and never was, intended .......and then arguing endlessly using the very same words to do nothing but continue the argument.
Wasted, foolish effort ...and not worthy of anyone's attention except .....dare I say it? ..philosophers!
Baron Max
And yet Philosophers described sciences before they were discovered, inspired art before it was conceived, gave birth to the enlightenment and tempered the minds of Albert Einstein, Ben Franklin, Da Vinci, really countless other "useful" persons.
Draqon, Zephyr:
Why do you think this?
Draqon, Zephyr:
Why do you think this?
When we say something is possible, where does this possibility exist?
Is it in, for lack of a better term, a Possibility Heaven? Wherein resides all possibilities?
Or does it exist as a "possibility seed" within the objects which are now existent?
Your mind and in the universe.When we say something is possible, where does this possibility exist?