A.I. proves God exists...

[sculptor]

IMHO
It you look for god in the bible, you should expect disappointment.
Therein you might find references to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
but the god of the bible ain't god
OK?
so now, AI has found AI'a god
so be it
It seems that many beings need a god
It seems that the god of hunter gatherers was female
Perhaps the image of god is held within a crystal of infinate facets
If you look into one you may see god, then look through another and you may see a seemingly dissimular god
keep looking
when you stop being confused..........................................................

 

[DaveC426913]

This is not a court of law. It's a discussion forum. You don't have to believe me when I report things I've heard or read from believers in my own experience, of course. In fact, I invite you to do your own research on my claims.

I think that what believers directly say and write about their beliefs is more likely to be reliable than what a chatbot says about what believers say or write. It's one step less removed from the source.

But, sure. If you want to stipulate that you're not going to believe anything but first-hand evidence from the horse's mouth itself, so to speak, that's your prerogative.

The problem is that what you are reporting is a black and white account. There's no opportunity to explore any possible nuance.
It demands either a 100% acceptance or 100% rejection. And that's not really a conversation, is it?

I am interested in why you would think I'm just making stuff up, though. Don't you trust me to report correctly what I have heard from various believers?

I didn't say "making stuff up".

Imagine if, instead, you were retelling an account from, say, Magical Realist, who claims 100% he saw a ghost.
I try to engage in a discussion with you "perhaps he mistook a reflecton in glass for an apparition".
To which you respond, "No. He claims 100% what he saw was a ghost. That part is not in doubt".
OK. There's no discussion there.

I don't think it's fair of you to lump me in with Write4U. Disappointing that you want to resort to that, I must say.

I'm not lumping you in, I'm lumping the argument in. There's a logical fallacy in your God argument, I just haven't pinned it down.*

* For want of a better fallacy, I'd say it's at least an appeal to authority. The authority being these believers. Their accounts are beyond question. They are reported to say "God is all-loving" Full stop. And, while we may disagree, we are not free to question them directly.


And it's a qualitative comparison, not a quantitative one.
Me: "A bicycle moves due to friction with the ground, just like a train."
You: "Are you lumping my 2000HP locomotive in with your one-human powered bicycle? I am disappointed that you think so little of me."
Me: "They are qualitatively the same motive mechanism, if not quantitatively the same. And it's not an attack on you."





So yeah, arguing about the what a third-party - who is not here to clarify - might or might not have meant seems fallacious to me.

 

[TheVat]

It seems that the god of hunter gatherers was female

Interesting - if archeological evidence points that way (like the Willendorf woman) I would wonder if the female was seen as the embodiment of fertility, they being "the soil" in which babies grew. Fertility was important to an HG.

It you look for god in the bible, you should expect disappointment.
Therein you might find references to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
but the god of the bible ain't god

Bible god seems kind of like an overworked administrator with serious anger issues.

Perhaps the image of god is held within a crystal of infinite facets
If you look into one you may see god, then look through another and you may see a seemingly dissimilar god.

I like that.

 

[Luchito]

Same old bs that Universe must have creator. Then Who made god ? If god always existed then why cant Universe.
After all we see Universe but not any gods www.godchecker.com
Our visible universe maybe only 13 b years old but Entire Universe is ENDless and Eternal imo
Big Bang was just part of it changing shape.

You went simple and to the point.

The always existing universe, I like that.

The physical universe is what you see. The gods is what you feel?