A conversation with an ex IDF commando

[Norsefire]

you see, syrians actually think lebanon is theirs, and they use it for their ops mission on israel as a third party so it wont look like as if they are responsible, but when israel invades lebanon for defensive measures after being attacked, all of the demons are out of the bottles.

why ho why, if hezbullah are such great heroes and defenders of lebanon, they dont "resist" the syrian invasion?

syria isnt israel(jews).

It is. If you, of course, actually think Israel is yours, why can't we think Lebanon is ours? We both have historic claims to both lands.

We are the defenders. It doesn't matter whether we plainly attack you, we will ALWAYS be the defenders according to the events of 1948, all actions afterward are in defense.

Because Hesbollah are Lebanese pro-Syrian. Alot of Lebanese people are pro-Syrian.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Obvious BS. But of course, you never adress how Muslims are treated within Israel.


Now, yes, my neighborhood in Latakia was primarily Christian with some Jews, and I never noticed Jews upset.

Remember, there is a difference between Proud Syrian Jews and Syrian Jews that want to betray their country.

Most Syrian Jews are proud of being Syrian though.

Just like Iran has the most (after Israel) Jews in the ME.

All 50 of them, and again from your post and schooling,(Huston School District) Texas how could you have lived in Syria and known Jews as neighbors?

Now, yes, my neighborhood in Latakia was primarily Christian with some Jews, and I never noticed Jews upset.

Again you speak the words of the Nazis, you (never noticed Jews being upset?) I SAW NOTHING!, NOTHING!!, I SAW NOTHING AT ALL!!!!!why the hell should you, if you were in Syria, and a Syrian, what good would it have done the Jews to show upset? were would it get them? at the end of a rope? killed by a mob? loss of their job? remember by 1996 there were only 50 Jews left in Syria, 4500 in 1992, so just how well were the Jews treated in Syria, well enough to make them run when the chance came.

 

[Norsefire]

Run? I think not. I think it's because they WANTED to prefer to go to "their land".

Don't fucking talk if you are not even SYRIAN. There are Jews in Egypt. Jews in the UAE. Jews in Lebanon, and Jews in Syria. You're so fucking stupid it's not even funny. Syria does not hate Jews, only Israelis. Big difference.


And of course, YOU are obviously the Nazi with your repeated claims of Nazism, it is no surprise that you have no other argument, and of course, you ARE the one that read Mein Kemph willingly, and know so much about Nazis. Not to mention, your ideals are FAR more nazi-related then mine.

I went to UoH, but not any prior grades in the US.


And to see nothing, can mean that there was NOTHING TO SEE. So because I see no Muslims being prosecuted in the US, that OBVIOUSLY means that they are secretly....that's how fucking stupid you sound right now.

 

[Norsefire]

And you sound so hypocritical, speaking of Jews' treatment in Syria, but avoiding Muslims' treatment in Israel.

 

[Mr.Spock]

And you sound so hypocritical, speaking of Jews' treatment in Syria, but avoiding Muslims' treatment in Israel.

what about them? they live better then me.

 

[Norsefire]

what about them? they live better then me.

Absolutely nothing about them, because from what I've heard, they do receive good standards of living, with discrimination.


However, the same is said for Jews in Syria. They live like any other Syrian, even if there is discrimination, it is also the same in Israel with Muslims.

 

[Mr.Spock]

Absolutely nothing about them, because from what I've heard, they do receive good standards of living, with discrimination.


However, the same is said for Jews in Syria. They live like any other Syrian, even if there is discrimination, it is also the same in Israel with Muslims.

yeah, they are discriminated. they can sue me, i cant sue them. they get job securities, i dont. they dont go to the army, i do. they dont obey the law, i got a parking ticket for a few inches. :shrug:

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Run? I think not. I think it's because they WANTED to prefer to go to "their land".

Don't fucking talk if you are not even SYRIAN. There are Jews in Egypt. Jews in the UAE. Jews in Lebanon, and Jews in Syria. You're so fucking stupid it's not even funny. Syria does not hate Jews, only Israelis. Big difference.


And of course, YOU are obviously the Nazi with your repeated claims of Nazism, it is no surprise that you have no other argument, and of course, you ARE the one that read Mein Kemph willingly, and know so much about Nazis. Not to mention, your ideals are FAR more nazi-related then mine.

I went to UoH, but not any prior grades in the US.


And to see nothing, can mean that there was NOTHING TO SEE. So because I see no Muslims being prosecuted in the US, that OBVIOUSLY means that they are secretly....that's how fucking stupid you sound right now.

Now lets see what the truth is,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands

THE JEWISH POPULATION ARAB LANDS 1948---2001

ADEN-1948/ 8000-----2001/0

ALGERIA-1948/140,000--------2001/0

BHARAIN-1948/600--------2001/36

EGYPT-1948/80,000------2001/100

IRAQ-1948/140,000--------2001/200

LEBANON-1948/20,000--------2001/100

LYBIA-1948/38,000--------2001/0

MORROCO-1948/265,000------2001/5230

SYRIA-1948/30,000--------2001/1000

YEMEN-1948/55,000------2001/200


JEWISH POPULATION OF NON-ARAB COUNTRIES: 1948--2001

Afghanistan-1948/5,000----------2001/1

Iran-1948/140,000–------2001/40,000

Pakistan-1948/2,000---------2001/ N/A

Turkey-1948/80,000--------2001/18,000-30,000

Yes the Arabs just treated their Jews so well that the populations exploded, and they weren't will to leave, so what the hell happened to all of the Jews in Arab lands? where did they go? where are all the well treated missing Jews of Arab Lands? tell me Norsefire, were the hell are they?

ps: the reason that I read Mien Kampf was to be able to see clearly the twisted though process that leads to people like the Nazis, and people like you going down the same path, using the same thought process,and excuses for your actions.

 

[Mr.Spock]

i wonder who is that one guy in Afghanistan

 

[Buffalo Roam]

i wonder who is that one guy in Afghanistan

Most likely a old fellow/girl, who is waiting for death to join his/her wife/husband, in Heaven, and wishes to be buried with her, they have been together through thick and thin, and can't stand the thought of being separated.

That seems to be the story of those who are left.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

When is SpAM going to address the fact that the Arabs didn't want a Palestinian State either, it wasn't just a Jewish State they wanted to destroy, they were going to tear up U.N. 181 and divide the British Mandate the way they saw fit, and that meant, No Israel, No Palestine, No Lebanon, it was all going to be divided up between Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, the Palestinians would still have been sucking hind tit on a boar hog, had the Arabs won the 48 war.

 

[Mr.Spock]

When is SpAM going to address the fact that the Arabs didn't want a Palestinian State either, it wasn't just a Jewish State they wanted to destroy, they were going to tear up U.N. 181 and divide the British Mandate the way they saw fit, and that meant, No Israel, No Palestine, No Lebanon, it was all going to be divided up between Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, the Palestinians would still have been sucking hind tit on a boar hog, had the Arabs won the 48 war.

she isnt. she will use a spin, quote, photo or video instead. propagandists usually do.

 

[S.A.M.]

It makes no difference whether the Arabs wanted a separate Palestinian state or not, their decision would not have involved the depopulation of existing natives or the bulldozing of existing villages.

Also the Arabs did not come from Europe or Russia.

 

[Mr.Spock]

It makes no difference whether the Arabs wanted a separate Palestinian state or not, their decision would not have involved the depopulation of existing natives or the bulldozing of existing villages.

Also the Arabs did not come from Europe or Russia.

sure, that is why they massacred jews and cooperated with the NAZIS. there are reports of how they planned to exterminate jews in israel as well, dear ho dear, the failed.

 

[Norsefire]

Buffalo, are you that stupid? With the creation of Israel, the Jewish land, it's obvious that Jews would want to move to "their" land. That's why, not because of any treatment issues.


Jews are treated like Christians and Muslims in Syria. I cannot speak for the other nations, but Syria is a multi-religious country. We have the second highest amount of Christians in any Arab nation, and unlike other Arab nations, only around 70% Muslim, as opposed to nearly 100%. There are many different religions in Syria, and, by Syrian law, you cannot discriminate, therefore Jews are not discriminated.

And why would we? Syria is not anti-Jewish. I am not anti-Jewish. There is a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli.

 

[Mr.Spock]

Buffalo, are you that stupid? With the creation of Israel, the Jewish land, it's obvious that Jews would want to move to "their" land. That's why, not because of any treatment issues.


Jews are treated like Christians and Muslims in Syria. I cannot speak for the other nations, but Syria is a multi-religious country. We have the second highest amount of Christians in any Arab nation, and unlike other Arab nations, only around 70% Muslim, as opposed to nearly 100%. There are many different religions in Syria, and, by Syrian law, you cannot discriminate, therefore Jews are not discriminated.

And why would we? Syria is not anti-Jewish. I am not anti-Jewish. There is a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli.

you obviously didnt asked them.

this obsession the arabs have for the land of israel i will never understand. they just cant swallow it.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Buffalo, are you that stupid? With the creation of Israel, the Jewish land, it's obvious that Jews would want to move to "their" land. That's why, not because of any treatment issues.


Jews are treated like Christians and Muslims in Syria. I cannot speak for the other nations, but Syria is a multi-religious country. We have the second highest amount of Christians in any Arab nation, and unlike other Arab nations, only around 70% Muslim, as opposed to nearly 100%. There are many different religions in Syria, and, by Syrian law, you cannot discriminate, therefore Jews are not discriminated.

And why would we? Syria is not anti-Jewish. I am not anti-Jewish. There is a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli.

No, the stupidity seems to be on your part, in telling us how well the Moslem Arabs, treat the Jews, how they care for and respect the Jews, well the numbers tell a different story, and the story told by the Jews who escaped the Islamic oppression of the Arabs is a sad tail indeed, SpAM want to tell about the Jewish Pogroms, well how do you have a progrom if you don't have any power, the Arabs Moslems had all kind of progroms, they were the ones with the power, and the Sharia Law and Quran, they the Moslems were the Military, it wasn't allowed for none believers, they paid the Jizya, as part of the Dhimminitude, weapons were not allowed to them, the none believers, as part of the Dhimminitude a Jew, Christian, or Zoroastrian, wasn't allowed to even defend himself,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi


Shi'a Islam treats dhimmis as unclean;

the view of Ruhollah Khomeini on ritual purity, states that such beliefs have been more recently remembered.[145] Opinions of modern Shi'a scholars range from Ruhollah Khomeini's view that all non-Muslims are unclean[146] to the position held by Fazel Lankarani that Jews and Christians are clean.[147]

The prohibition of marriage between Muslim woman and Dhimmi man was enforced with the utmost rigor,[140] with any violations of it, including a sexual relationship between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman, being punishable by death. All schools of Islamic jurisprudence, with the exception of Hanafi, treated dhimmis who married or engaged in sexual relations with Muslim women like adulterers, for whom the punishment is death by stoning.[141] In cases when a non-Muslim wife converts to Islam, while her non-Muslim husband does not, their marriage is annulled.[142]

In accordance with the Pact of Umar, dhimmis had no right to bear arms of any kind

Despite the prohibition to carry weapons, Muslim jurists allowed using a dhimmi as an auxiliary soldier "as one would use a dog".[98]

In his commentary on Sura 9:29, Ibn Kathir writes that dhimmis must be:

disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of the dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they [dhimmis] are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated.[107]

Outbreaks of violence, including massacres and expulsions, directed against dhimmis became more frequent from the late 18th century onwards. In 1790, Jews were massacred in Tetouan and then in 1828, in Baghdad. In mid-19th century a wave of violence and forced conversions of Jews swept across Persia: in 1834, Jews were massacred in Safed, in 1839 in Mashhad, and in 1867 in Barforoush. Other outbreaks followed in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and other Arab countries of the Middle East.[102] In 1860, 5,000 Christians were massacred in Damascus.[103] In 19th-century Iraq, especially in the area of Mosul, both Jews and Christians lived in a state of constant insecurity.[104]

As required by the Pact of Umar, dhimmis had to bury their dead without loud lamentations and prayers.[34] Incidents of harassment of dhimmi funeral processions by Muslims, involving pelting with stones, battery, spitting, or cursing, even by Muslim children, were common regardless of place and time.

Punishment for murder of a dhimmi
In all schools of Islamic jurisprudence, except the Hanafi, the maximum punishment for the murder of a dhimmi, if perpetrated by a Muslim, was the payment of blood money; no death penalty was possible. For Maliki and Hanbali schools of jurisprudence, the value of a dhimmi's life was one-half the value of a Muslim's life; in the Shafi'i school, Jews and Christians were worth one-third of a Muslim and Zoroastrians were worth just one-fifteenth. The Hanafi school, which represents the majority of Sunni Muslims, however, believes that the murder of a dhimmi must be punishable by death, citing a hadith according to which Muhammad ordered the execution of a Muslim who killed a dhimmi.[94]

A peculiar practice developed in Yemen, where Arab tribes collected jizya from Jews, offering them protection. If a Muslim from one tribe killed a Jew protected by another tribe, then the other tribe could retaliate by killing a Jew protected by the tribe of the murderer. As a result, two Jews were murdered, while no direct sanctions were imposed on the Muslims

 

[Gustav]

cant all you sand niggers just .....get along?

 

[Gustav]

hmm?

/perplexed

 

[Norsefire]

Buffalo, your key word is Islamic, as Muslims and Christians are opressed in Israel.

The argument is for both sides. Regardless, the Jews opress non-Jews in Israel

However, Syria is NOT an Islamic nation, like that of Iran. Syria is MULTIRELIGIOUS, why the fuck can't you swallow that?

Gustav, go jump the fucking border and STFU