11000 scientists warn re climate change

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Xelasnave.1947 and other interested posters

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    A 51-year-old man has been charged with lighting an out-of-control fire in the NSW Northern Tablelands in order to protect a cannabis crop.

    The fast-moving blaze at Guyra Road in Ebor, northeast of Armidale, was burning across more than 2000ha on Friday afternoon as it spread towards the Ebor township.

    The fire was reported to emergency services at about 10.30pm on Thursday.

    The man was arrested just after 2pm on Friday in Ebor and charged with intentionally cause fire and be reckless to its spread.

    Police will allege in court the man lit the fire as an attempt at a backburn to protect a cannabis crop and made no attempt to control the blaze.

    They also allege he hoped to benefit from government payments in the recovery after the fire.

    He was refused bail to appear at Armidale Local Court on Saturday.

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    Had to copy and paste the above because unable to provide a link sorry

    You should be able to get enough from the above to do a Google

    Hint seems like on Channel 7 news

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  3. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    In some US states it is or was illegal to collect rainwater.
    Colorado just relented, allowing up to 2 x 55 gallon rain barrels.
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You could have also added that, Colorado is a state with Death Valley. I think.
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    No
    I would not have added that!
     
  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose it is a start.
    We need to get the folk who start the fire that forces folk to back burn.
    I would back burn to save my house...I have many years ago with the main fire 100 MTRS away ... the time you get to that situation one rarely adds to the problem.
    Thanks for posting.
    Alex
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Why? Concerns re mozzies?
    Alex
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    water rights issues
    the laws governing water rights are rather complex
    the laws against catching runoff from your roof hinged on the concept of "diverting water" from those "downstream".
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    In certain limited locales.
    The water resources were owned, see - so collecting them for oneself was theft.
    In places that have privatized their water supply, that kind of restriction is common.
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. A reasonable idea but you could think more water storage would be a good idea but I guess folk down stre may not get a stream.
    Alex
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    So we start another week and still no further ahead as to if the list is a lie... So it's old news and probably this post the last of it...
    Alex
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not a lie.
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Not s problem saying that the list is a lie

    Many people have seen the list

    What it PURPORTS its contents to be ie
    11,000 scientists

    I am guessing the list is down for correction

    Will be interesting what they come back with

    XXXXX scientists warn re climate change and I am betting XXXXX will not be 11,000 and all in the new XXXXX will have their qualifications even morely (sic)

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  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares what kind of scientists they are? It's a show of solidarity from the scientific community. Climate change is as good as a fact.
     
  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    How many scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

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  20. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    I think it would be a stretch to accuse the Oregon State University of lying.
     
  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I do for one ... particularly as there is a strong indication that there are very few if any scientists on the list. Its disappearance strongly suggests the allegations re the list, are not foundless.

    And I would expect that given any critism of any scientist who speaks against climate science is always..what would he know he is not a climate scientist...that the scientists on the list could be expected to be climate scientists.

    You must have missed it...the allegation is that those on the list were not scientists. So at most we witness the solidarity of folk on the issue who are not scientists.

    This is true so one wonders why the need to lie that you have a list of 11000 scientists when you do not have such a list.

    Clearly there must be something to the allegation given the smoke screen.

    You seem to be saying " who cares if it's a lie as the general proposition is correct" well you may think that way but if someone lies their credibility is gone not enhanced.

    Your fondness for the cause should not allow you to overlook lieing.

    Alex
     
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  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    We need the list, which we will get tidied up, but who to accuse of lieing should be easy..those who claimed to have a list when what they had was not what they claim...
    And the damage...the damage has been done...and anyone who thinks otherwise is too entrenched to recognise belief in something does not give licence to lie...I guess my values are different..as it seems so many folk think lieing is ok for their side but not the other...
    Anyways I am done here how can one get a point across when folk think lieing is ok.
    Alex
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You skeptical you. Don't you know a scientist is a scientist is a scientist.....?

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