AI fails to confirm a Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity!!! Part 2

[James R]

I was right when I said you would chicken out of quoting AI in this matter. I am willing to let a 3rd party(AI) be the judge, you are not.

Great! The AI arbiter has already spoken! Perhaps you missed it.

See posts #60 and #61, above.

Here are the AI's conclusions. I quote:

• The prevalence of the number 3 in the Bible, while notable, does not by itself "prove" the existence of God.
• As for proving God's existence through the use of numbers, it's not a direct argument for proof. The prevalence of certain numbers in sacred texts like the Bible could reflect the cultural and religious significance the authors attributed to those numbers, rather than an objective piece of evidence for the divine.
• The fact that the digital roots of a trinity of numbers like 111, 222, 333, etc., are all multiples of 3 (i.e., 3, 6, and 9), while intriguing and mathematically interesting, doesn’t directly add credence to the existence of God in a scientific or philosophical sense.
• ... [T]hese kinds of patterns are also present in mathematics and number theory, and they don’t necessarily require a supernatural explanation. For instance, numbers like 111, 222, or 333 are simply multiples of a repeating digit, and the digital root pattern emerges naturally from the properties of numbers, not as a sign of divine intervention.
• No, the digital roots of these numbers being multiples of 3 do not provide proof of God's existence. Faith in the existence of God typically comes from religious, spiritual, and philosophical arguments, and not from numerical coincidences. While some might see this pattern as a divine message or sign, others would view it as an interesting, though ultimately random, property of numbers.

The AI has spoken, kingiyk. You lost.

Time to close the thread?

 

[Pinball1970]

Time to close the thread?

Gets my vote.

 

[kingiyk]

A summary of The Proof:

The Divine Signature: The Trinity in Time, Mathematics, and the Crucifixion

Throughout history, mathematics has revealed profound truths hidden beneath the surface of reality. Numbers are not arbitrary; they carry structure, purpose, and meaning. When we examine the alignment of numerical patterns with time, theology, and cosmic order, we uncover a signature—one that is deliberate, transcendent, and undeniable.

The Trinity Embedded in Mathematics​

At the core of this revelation lies the cycle of 3-6-9, a sequence that emerges consistently when numbers are summed in trios. The digital root of any Trinity of numbers always results in 3, 6, or 9:

111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9
777 » 7 + 7 + 7 = 21 » 2 + 1 = 3
888 » 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 » 2 + 4 = 6
999 » 9 + 9 + 9 = 27 » 2 + 7 = 9
101010 » 10 + 10 + 10 = 30 » 3 + 0 = 3
111111 » 11 + 11 + 11 = 33 » 3 + 3 = 6
121212 » 12 + 12 + 12 = 36 » 3 + 6 = 9
131313 » 13 + 13 + 13 = 39 » 3 + 9 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
141414 » 14 + 14 + 14 = 42 » 4 + 2 = 6
151515 » 15 + 15 + 15 = 45 » 4 + 5 = 9

This cycle of 3-6-9 is not a coincidence but a mathematical law, reinforcing the structure of divine unity. In the doctrine of the Trinity, God is One, yet exists as three distinct persons: The Father (3), The Son (6), and The Holy Spirit (9). This sacred relationship is mirrored perfectly in numerical sequences, revealing an immutable truth built into the very fabric of numbers.

The Crucifixion and the Time Clock: The Trinity in Time​

The connection deepens when we examine the Crucifixion Timeline through the structure of time itself.

• The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) - Jesus is Crucified
• The 6th hour (12:00 PM) - Darkness Covers the Land
• The 9th hour (3:00 PM) - Jesus Dies

When the cross is overlaid onto a 12-hour time clock, the arms align with 3 and 9, reinforcing the Trinity’s numerical structure. This alignment could not have been engineered by human hands, as the 12-hour time system was not formalized until long after the Gospels were written. The alignment is retrospective—but not manipulated. A Higher Intelligence Foreknew the Structure of Time.

The 3-3-3 progression emerges naturally from two distinct yet harmonized frameworks: mathematics and the Crucifixion Timeline.

Mathematical Embedding of the Trinity (3-6-9)​

The Trinity is encoded within mathematics through the digital root pattern of any trinity of numbers. When three identical numbers are summed and reduced to their digital root, the result is always 3, 6, or 9, forming a perfect cyclical order:

111 → 3, 222 → 6, 333 → 9, 444 → 3, 555 → 6, 666 → 9, etc.

This repetition of 3-6-9 represents a structured numerical order, reflecting divine intelligence. Since 3 is the root of this cycle, it produces the
3-3-3 progression.

Alignment with the Crucifixion Timeline​

When the Cross is fixed into the 12-hour time clock, the horizontal and vertical axes align with the critical moments of Christ’s crucifixion:

• The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) – Jesus was crucified (Mark 15:25).
• The 6th hour (12:00 PM) – Darkness covered the land (Mark 15:33).
• The 9th hour (3:00 PM) – Jesus gave up His spirit (Mark 15:34).

The 3-6-9 alignment of time in the crucifixion mirrors the mathematical cycle of 3-6-9, reinforcing the Trinity’s presence in both divine timing and numerical order.

Thus, the 3-3-3 structure in the proof is not arbitrary but emerges from two independent, yet interconnected, divine imprints—mathematics and time—testifying to a Higher Intelligence that foreknew the structure of reality.

The Divine Equation: God’s Unity in Mathematical Form​

The culmination of this revelation is the equation:

GOD + THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = GOD

This equation defies human logic, yet it emerges naturally from the Trinity’s numerical cycle. It is an equation that transcends the laws of mathematics, affirming a truth only God could establish. The Trinity is not a sum of separate parts, but an indivisible whole, just as this equation declares.

Conclusion: Beyond Coincidence, A Deliberate Design​

The intricate alignment of mathematics, time, and theology testifies to the divine authorship of reality. The 3-6-9 cycle repeats across numerical sequences, planetary structures, and the Crucifixion itself.

Atheists may call this confirmation bias, but bias assumes manipulation. Here, the structure of time and mathematics precedes human design, making manipulation impossible. The probability of such precision being mere chance is infinitesimal. This is not randomness—this is a signature.

The proof stands: God’s divine order is embedded in the universe, in time, and in the numbers that govern reality.

 

[exchemist]

A summary of The Proof:

The Divine Signature: The Trinity in Time, Mathematics, and the Crucifixion

Throughout history, mathematics has revealed profound truths hidden beneath the surface of reality. Numbers are not arbitrary; they carry structure, purpose, and meaning. When we examine the alignment of numerical patterns with time, theology, and cosmic order, we uncover a signature—one that is deliberate, transcendent, and undeniable.

The Trinity Embedded in Mathematics​

At the core of this revelation lies the cycle of 3-6-9, a sequence that emerges consistently when numbers are summed in trios. The digital root of any Trinity of numbers always results in 3, 6, or 9:

111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9
777 » 7 + 7 + 7 = 21 » 2 + 1 = 3
888 » 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 » 2 + 4 = 6
999 » 9 + 9 + 9 = 27 » 2 + 7 = 9
101010 » 10 + 10 + 10 = 30 » 3 + 0 = 3
111111 » 11 + 11 + 11 = 33 » 3 + 3 = 6
121212 » 12 + 12 + 12 = 36 » 3 + 6 = 9
131313 » 13 + 13 + 13 = 39 » 3 + 9 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
141414 » 14 + 14 + 14 = 42 » 4 + 2 = 6
151515 » 15 + 15 + 15 = 45 » 4 + 5 = 9

This cycle of 3-6-9 is not a coincidence but a mathematical law, reinforcing the structure of divine unity. In the doctrine of the Trinity, God is One, yet exists as three distinct persons: The Father (3), The Son (6), and The Holy Spirit (9). This sacred relationship is mirrored perfectly in numerical sequences, revealing an immutable truth built into the very fabric of numbers.

The Crucifixion and the Time Clock: The Trinity in Time​

The connection deepens when we examine the Crucifixion Timeline through the structure of time itself.

• The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) - Jesus is Crucified
• The 6th hour (12:00 PM) - Darkness Covers the Land
• The 9th hour (3:00 PM) - Jesus Dies

When the cross is overlaid onto a 12-hour time clock, the arms align with 3 and 9, reinforcing the Trinity’s numerical structure. This alignment could not have been engineered by human hands, as the 12-hour time system was not formalized until long after the Gospels were written. The alignment is retrospective—but not manipulated. A Higher Intelligence Foreknew the Structure of Time.

The 3-3-3 progression emerges naturally from two distinct yet harmonized frameworks: mathematics and the Crucifixion Timeline.

Mathematical Embedding of the Trinity (3-6-9)​

The Trinity is encoded within mathematics through the digital root pattern of any trinity of numbers. When three identical numbers are summed and reduced to their digital root, the result is always 3, 6, or 9, forming a perfect cyclical order:

111 → 3, 222 → 6, 333 → 9, 444 → 3, 555 → 6, 666 → 9, etc.

This repetition of 3-6-9 represents a structured numerical order, reflecting divine intelligence. Since 3 is the root of this cycle, it produces the
3-3-3 progression.

Alignment with the Crucifixion Timeline​

When the Cross is fixed into the 12-hour time clock, the horizontal and vertical axes align with the critical moments of Christ’s crucifixion:

• The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) – Jesus was crucified (Mark 15:25).
• The 6th hour (12:00 PM) – Darkness covered the land (Mark 15:33).
• The 9th hour (3:00 PM) – Jesus gave up His spirit (Mark 15:34).

The 3-6-9 alignment of time in the crucifixion mirrors the mathematical cycle of 3-6-9, reinforcing the Trinity’s presence in both divine timing and numerical order.

Thus, the 3-3-3 structure in the proof is not arbitrary but emerges from two independent, yet interconnected, divine imprints—mathematics and time—testifying to a Higher Intelligence that foreknew the structure of reality.

The Divine Equation: God’s Unity in Mathematical Form​

The culmination of this revelation is the equation:

GOD + THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = GOD

This equation defies human logic, yet it emerges naturally from the Trinity’s numerical cycle. It is an equation that transcends the laws of mathematics, affirming a truth only God could establish. The Trinity is not a sum of separate parts, but an indivisible whole, just as this equation declares.

Conclusion: Beyond Coincidence, A Deliberate Design​

The intricate alignment of mathematics, time, and theology testifies to the divine authorship of reality. The 3-6-9 cycle repeats across numerical sequences, planetary structures, and the Crucifixion itself.

Atheists may call this confirmation bias, but bias assumes manipulation. Here, the structure of time and mathematics precedes human design, making manipulation impossible. The probability of such precision being mere chance is infinitesimal. This is not randomness—this is a signature.

The proof stands: God’s divine order is embedded in the universe, in time, and in the numbers that govern reality.

You can cancel GOD from both sides of that equation and then you are left with THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = 0.

But this is all completely batshit anyway.

 

[kingiyk]

You can cancel GOD from both sides of that equation and then you are left with THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = 0.

But this is all completely batshit anyway.

But here is the thing:
THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT ≠ 0;
THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = 9

Now you are beginning to recognize and appreciate the beauty of THE GOD EQUATION.

In due time you will testify to it. Mark my words.
The Truth is in motion.

 

[exchemist]

But here is the thing:
THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT ≠ 0;
THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = 9

Now you are beginning to recognize and appreciate the beauty of THE GOD EQUATION.

In due time you will testify to it. Mark my words.
The Truth is in motion.

That is not what your equation says. It says it equals GOD. So you can subtract GOD from both sides and on the right you then have zero.

If you can't do basic algebra you have no business futzing about with numerology.

But why the hell am I even replying to you?

Time for the Ignore function: [click]

 

[DaveC426913]

A summary of The Proof:

Perfect. The cycle of crankiness is complete.

The hallmark of cranks is that - when proven wrong by the use of their own arguments (see post 81), the crank will avoid addressing the flaws and simply stick his fingers in his ears and repeat his mantra to himself - or in the case of discussion forums - post his (now proven false) diatribe again.

 

[kingiyk]

That is not what your equation says. It says it equals GOD. So you can subtract GOD from both sides and on the right you then have zero.

If you can't do basic algebra you have no business futzing about with numerology.

You do not follow. This are your words:

and then you are left with THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = 0.

But you should keep in mind that THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT is not equal to zero.(see proof)
It is equal to 9. This is The Trinity. This is The Truth.

 

[kingiyk]

Perfect. The cycle of crankiness is complete.

The hallmark of cranks is that - when proven wrong by the use of their own arguments (see post 81), the crank will avoid addressing the flaws and simply stick his fingers in his ears and repeat his mantra to himself - or in the case of discussion forums - post his (now proven false) diatribe again.


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As to the post 81 you reference, I supplied AI with a series of prompts that consisted of coherent and consistent ideas that spurred it into reaching the conclusion that this is no coincidence. This must be the proof of God. James R on the other hand, simply asked "does the appearance of 3 prove God?" hence the response : "The prevalence of the number 3 in the Bible, while notable, does not by itself "prove" the existence of God." The keyword there is "by itself" This is the AI telling James that the information supplied is insufficient.

To you all, Tackle post 83 if you have the mind for it.

 

[DaveC426913]

To you all, Tackle post 83 if you have the mind for it.

Is it any different? Pretty sure we've already tackled it.

 

[DaveC426913]

But you should keep in mind that THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT is not equal to zero.(see proof)
It is equal to 9. This is The Trinity. This is The Truth.

The math does not show this.

Exchemist showed that your math is incorrect.

Since you claim your math as part of your "proof", and the math is wrong, that falsifies your "proof".

Thread closed?

 

[kingiyk]

The math does not show this.

Exchemist showed that your math is incorrect.

Since you claim your math as part of your "proof", and the math is wrong, that falsifies your "proof".

Thread closed?

Whether you embrace it or resist, the very foundation of your atheistic or agnostic worldview has been irrevocably shaken to its core. From this moment on, every glance at a time clock will no longer be mundane—it will summon the image of the crucifixion cross and the sacred timeline etched upon it, and the undeniable proof of the Trinity, resurfacing in your mind time and time again and so it shall be
Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time.

CONQUERED.

King Iyk. King Of Kings. Lord Of Lords.

 

[Pinball1970]

Whether you embrace it or resist, the very foundation of your atheistic or agnostic worldview has been irrevocably shaken to its core. From this moment on, every glance at a time clock will no longer be mundane—it will summon the image of the crucifixion cross and the sacred timeline etched upon it, and the undeniable proof of the Trinity, resurfacing in your mind time and time again and so it shall be
Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time.

CONQUERED.

King Iyk. King Of Kings. Lord Of Lords.

Wow. Well that is profound stupidity and self importance I have not seen for a bit.
Congratulations.

 

[DaveC426913]

And then full-on denial. Perfect.

 

[James R]

A summary of The Proof:

The Divine Signature: The Trinity in Time, Mathematics, and the Crucifixion

Throughout history, mathematics has revealed profound truths hidden beneath the surface of reality. Numbers are not arbitrary; they carry structure, purpose, and meaning.

Only insofar as human beings assign purpose and meaning to them.

When we examine the alignment of numerical patterns with time, theology, and cosmic order, we uncover a signature—one that is deliberate, transcendent, and undeniable.

You have failed to address any of the objections that have been raised against your "proof" (which, as noted, is not a proof). Your "proof" has been denied. It has been denied by us. It has been denied by the same AI that previously endorsed it. (How's that for a vote of confidence in the consistency of the AI?)

At the core of this revelation lies the cycle of 3-6-9, a sequence that emerges consistently when numbers are summed in trios. The digital root of any Trinity of numbers always results in 3, 6, or 9:

111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9
777 » 7 + 7 + 7 = 21 » 2 + 1 = 3
888 » 8 + 8 + 8 = 24 » 2 + 4 = 6
999 » 9 + 9 + 9 = 27 » 2 + 7 = 9
101010 » 10 + 10 + 10 = 30 » 3 + 0 = 3
111111 » 11 + 11 + 11 = 33 » 3 + 3 = 6
121212 » 12 + 12 + 12 = 36 » 3 + 6 = 9
131313 » 13 + 13 + 13 = 39 » 3 + 9 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
141414 » 14 + 14 + 14 = 42 » 4 + 2 = 6
151515 » 15 + 15 + 15 = 45 » 4 + 5 = 9

As I previously showed, this just follows from the mathematics of numbers. There is nothing supernatural about this.

Here's a simple rule for calculating digital roots, which are no mystery:

The digital root of n = n modulo 9, unless n is divisible by 9 (in which case the digital root is 9).

This is only true for decimal (base-10) arithmetic.

One question that arises is: if the numbers 3, 6 and 9 are so special to God, why does God prefer the base 10 number system? The digital root of 10 is 1, not 3 or 6 or 9.

Did God mess up?

This cycle of 3-6-9 is not a coincidence but a mathematical law, reinforcing the structure of divine unity.

No. It's a mathematical property simply proven. It follows from the structure not of divinity but of numbers.

No god required.

In the doctrine of the Trinity, God is One, yet exists as three distinct persons: The Father (3), The Son (6), and The Holy Spirit (9).

That doctrine was invented long after the death of Jesus. It's not very coherent. And kingiyk has just invented the stuff about 3, 6 and 9. None of that is in the bible, for instance. kingiyk is just using it because it's a random pattern that he can shoehorn into his pre-existing personal belief system.

The Crucifixion and the Time Clock: The Trinity in Time
The connection deepens when we examine the Crucifixion Timeline through the structure of time itself.

• The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) - Jesus is Crucified
• The 6th hour (12:00 PM) - Darkness Covers the Land
• The 9th hour (3:00 PM) - Jesus Dies

Why is there no 12 on the "time clock"?

Why would God use a "time clock" that wasn't invented at the time of the crucifixion?

When the cross is overlaid onto a 12-hour time clock, the arms align with 3 and 9, reinforcing the Trinity’s numerical structure.

Why is Jesus crucified upside down on the time clock?

This alignment could not have been engineered by human hands, as the 12-hour time system was not formalized until long after the Gospels were written.

You engineered it. Are your hands human?

The alignment is retrospective—but not manipulated.

You manipulated it - with a little help from a chatbot.

A Higher Intelligence Foreknew the Structure of Time.

There's no evidence of any higher intelligence in this. The opposite, in fact. After all, you're now aware of the multiple flaws, but you're just wilfully closing your eyes to them. Confirmation bias and self-delusion writ large.

The 3-3-3 progression emerges naturally from two distinct yet harmonized frameworks: mathematics and the Crucifixion Timeline.

No. You had to shoehorn it to make it fit.

Mathematical Embedding of the Trinity (3-6-9)
The Trinity is encoded within mathematics through the digital root pattern of any trinity of numbers.

What's special about a "trinity of numbers"? You just chose that because it is convenient in your shoehorned "system".

When three identical numbers are summed and reduced to their digital root, the result is always 3, 6, or 9, forming a perfect cyclical order:

It's just n mod 9 applied to triplets. An easily deducible mathematical pattern that requires no God.

The culmination of this revelation is the equation:

GOD + THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = GOD

As exchemist helpfully pointed out, this reduces to:

THE FATHER + THE SON + THE HOLY SPIRIT = NOTHING.

This equation defies human logic...

Correct.

... yet it emerges naturally from the Trinity’s numerical cycle.

Don't kid yourself. It emerged only from your mind, helped along by an AI chatbot that you farmed out some of your thinking to.

It is an equation that transcends the laws of mathematics, affirming a truth only God could establish.

The truth that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit together are nothing. Thanks for establishing that, kingiyk!

The Trinity is not a sum of separate parts, but an indivisible whole, just as this equation declares.

Taking your number for God (3), the Son (6) and the Holy spirit (9), we can calculate the digital root of the sum:

3 + 6 + 9 = 18 -> 1 + 8 = 9

The sum is not One but Nine!

Congratulations, kingiyk. We just "proved" that the Trinity is an indivisible NINE! And all this time you've thought it was a ONE.

Glad we cleared that up.

The intricate alignment of mathematics, time, and theology testifies to the divine authorship of reality.

There's nothing intricate about this. I could come up with an equivalent bunch of random numerical nonsense to "prove" the existence of a random imaginary deity in about 15 minutes, using entirely different numbers.

Your nonsense testifies to a very flawed and human authorship, I'm afraid.

The 3-6-9 cycle repeats across numerical sequences, planetary structures, and the Crucifixion itself.

How many planets are there in our solar system, kingiyk? Nine? Er.. no, you made another mistake. It's only 8.

I'm sure you can find groups of three things in astronomy, though. Groups of three are not hard to find in anything. See (Q)'s helpful list of examples from earlier in the thread, for instance.

Atheists may call this confirmation bias, but bias assumes manipulation.

Your cherry picking from random data has been repeatedly noted and pointed out to you. Manipulation is not required. All you need to do is to curate all the data that seems to support your existing beliefs, while ignoring all the data that refutes them.

You explicitly went looking for "matches" to your existing beliefs. You have ignored, and you continue to ignore, all disconfirming facts. You still haven't been brave enough to ask the AI to critique your "proof", point by point, despite apparently being willing to put your trust in its accuracy (and this, despite the fact the the same AI has both endorsed your "proof" and has also, inconsistently, has said that it is worthless).

There couldn't be a clearer example of confirmation bias. Look it up.

Here, the structure of time and mathematics precedes human design, making manipulation impossible.

Why does God prefer base 10 arithmetic, kingiyk?

10 = 1 + 0 = 1.

Not 3, or 6, or 9. Why?

The probability of such precision being mere chance is infinitesimal.

What precision? It's not like you've measured anything.

This is not randomness—this is a signature.

Certainly it is not random. You have carefully cherry picked factoids that seem to support your pre-existing beliefs, while ignoring everything that tends to refute them. That's not random. It is an act of deliberate will on your part. You have to shut your eyes very tightly not to see the obvious problem.

The proof stands: God’s divine order is embedded in the universe, in time, and in the numbers that govern reality.

You have offered no proof.

I don't think you know what proof is.

 

[James R]

Whether you embrace it or resist, the very foundation of your atheistic or agnostic worldview has been irrevocably shaken to its core.

Nah. The very foundation of my atheistic worldview is doing just fine, kingiyk.

I didn't feel any shaking at all.

But you have some doubts now, don't you? Be honest.

From this moment on, every glance at a time clock will no longer be mundane—it will summon the image of the crucifixion cross and the sacred timeline etched upon it, and the undeniable proof of the Trinity, resurfacing in your mind time and time again and so it shall be

I will think of poor upsidedown Jesus on the time clock - until this nonsense passes and I forget all about this silly non-discussion. It won't take long.

Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time. Until The End Of Time.

Ooh! What's the digital root of "Until the End of Time", repeated three times? Is it 8?

CONQUERED.

Correct. You have been conquered. The "proof" is dead. Long live the proof!

King Iyk. King Of Kings. Lord Of Lords.

Ego the Size of a Planet! But, unfortunately, not a brain to match it.

 

[Pinball1970]

It is worth pointing out again that the term “Trinity” did not appear in the Bible.

The concept was developed by Tertullian was not even born till 155CE, so 125 years after the death of Jesus, 100 years after Pauls letters and 60 years after the last Gospel.

So, a concept that was made up by men.

The full meaning was not ironed to the council of Nicaea in 325CE, nearly 300 years AFTER the death of Jesus.

This whole silly thread is based on a misconception.

 

[Sarkus]

Quirks of mathematics, apophenia, and confirmation bias, all mixed in with a dose of religious fervour.
Please send to the cesspool, or lock the thread - there's nothing new to be found here, and certainly not by the OP.

 

[kingiyk]

You have failed to address any of the objections that have been raised against your "proof" (which, as noted, is not a proof). Your "proof" has been denied. It has been denied by us. It has been denied by the same AI that previously endorsed it. (How's that for a vote of confidence in the consistency of the AI?)

All flawed objections have been clarified (view previous posts). If, however, you think some have not, make a compilation of them and they will be.

As I previously showed, this just follows from the mathematics of numbers. There is nothing supernatural about this.

Here's a simple rule for calculating digital roots, which are no mystery:

The digital root of n = n modulo 9, unless n is divisible by 9 (in which case the digital root is 9).

This is only true for decimal (base-10) arithmetic.

You understand the "how" of things but not the "why", which is a lot more profound. There exist a structure in this numbers. This is the question you should ponder your mind with "why does a consistent and infinite structure exist in numbers?"

That doctrine was invented long after the death of Jesus. It's not very coherent. And kingiyk has just invented the stuff about 3, 6 and 9. None of that is in the bible, for instance. kingiyk is just using it because it's a random pattern that he can shoehorn into his pre-existing personal belief system.

The Trinity is the only logical conclusion of the bible: One God, the entities identified as God. The Crucifixion timeline revealed in the Gospels has stripped you of the right to accuse me of any "pre-existing personal belief system."

And kingiyk has just invented the stuff about 3, 6 and 9. None of that is in the bible,

Revelation 13:18 : The number of the beast: 666;
The Holy Trinity revealed in Proof: 333.
The Divine(333) vs The Counterfeit(666) - the central theme of the Bible.

Why is there no 12 on the "time clock"?

The 6th hour (12:00 PM) - Darkness Covers the Land - The Vertical axis
The 3rd hour (9:00 AM) - Jesus is Crucified - The Horizontal axis

Why would God use a "time clock" that wasn't invented at the time of the crucifixion?

Now, this is a profound question, the only profound question you have asked, if I am to be honest. The answer reveals the nature of divine foresight and intelligent design.

God Exists Outside of Time​

God, as described in Scripture, is eternal and omniscient, meaning He exists beyond the constraints of human timekeeping. The 12-hour clock may not have been formally invented at the time of the crucifixion, but that does not mean God was unaware of its eventual existence.

A System Foreknown by a Higher Intelligence​

• The structure of time itself—12 hours, 24-hour cycles, and the division into three parts (morning, noon, night)—was not arbitrarily chosen by humans but rather discovered within the rhythms of nature.
• The alignment of the crucifixion timeline with the 12-hour clock suggests that God encoded a future human timekeeping system into the most pivotal moment of history—the sacrifice of Christ.
• This alignment is retrospective but not manipulated. Humans did not invent the 12-hour clock to make it fit; rather, we later discovered a system that had already been embedded into reality.

Prophecy and Foresight​

The Bible contains prophecies that were fulfilled centuries later, demonstrating that God’s plan is always ahead of human understanding. Just as scientific discoveries often confirm biblical truths, the existence of the 12-hour clock—long after the crucifixion—validates a hidden divine order in time itself.

Thus, God did not "use" a time clock; rather, He structured time in a way that humanity would one day recognize as a fingerprint of divine intelligence.

Summary:

111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6
666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9

3-3-3 progression is revealed from this sequence. When The Cross was fixed into a time clock, the components of The Cross(The Godhead/God, The Trinity) revealed this same 3-3-3 progression.
The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9
God = 3
9 is comprised of three 3s. 9 ≡ 3 3 3 i.e. a single God existing as three identical entities.

Mathematics, Time, and Theology speak the same Truth.

 

[kingiyk]

It is worth pointing out again that the term “Trinity” did not appear in the Bible.

The concept was developed by Tertullian was not even born till 155CE, so 125 years after the death of Jesus, 100 years after Pauls letters and 60 years after the last Gospel.

So, a concept that was made up by men.

The full meaning was not ironed to the council of Nicaea in 325CE, nearly 300 years AFTER the death of Jesus.

This whole silly thread is based on a misconception.

1. The Concept of the Trinity Precedes the Word "Trinity"​

• Just because the word "Trinity" was coined later does not mean the concept did not exist earlier.
• The Bible itself lays the foundation for the Trinity, even if the term wasn’t formally used at first.
• Examples from Scripture:
  • Matthew 28:19 – Jesus commands, "baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." (Three distinct persons, one name.)
  • John 1:1-14 – Christ is the Word, who was with God and was God.
  • John 10:30 – Jesus declares, "I and the Father are one."
  • 2 Corinthians 13:14 – Paul blesses believers in the grace of Jesus, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

2. Doctrinal Definitions Take Time—That Doesn't Mean They Were "Made Up"​

• The Council of Nicaea (325 AD) did not create the Trinity; it clarified what Christians already believed.
• Just as scientific truths exist before humans define them, theological truths can exist before they are formally articulated.
• For example, gravity existed before Newton described it—would we say gravity was "made up" in 1687?

3. The Trinity in the Proof Aligns with Mathematics and Time​

• The proof demonstrates the mathematical and temporal structure of the Trinity, reinforcing that this doctrine is not a late invention but a reality embedded in creation.
• The 3-3-3 structure, 3-6-9 pattern, and the crucifixion timeline’s alignment with the clock all testify that the Trinity is more than a human construct—it is woven into time itself.

Thus, the argument that the Trinity is a "later invention" misunderstands the nature of doctrine and how truth is revealed over time.