Magical Realist
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An image superimposed over film ISN'T "a transparent humanoid apparition crossing the road." It's not crossing anything. It's just a 2D image superimposed on film. But then we knew that didn't we?
Ghost caught on Dover Castle CCTV
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An image superimposed over film ISN'T "a transparent humanoid apparition crossing the road." It's not crossing anything. It's just a 2D image superimposed on film. But then we knew that didn't we?
You play very loosely with the word "fact", don't ya...
I dare say this is more of the same that has gotten you in trouble in the past... and i've no intention of stepping between you and the firing squad this time
Godspeed
And that one is clearly an insect. (I was going to say 'bug', but that could be misconstrued..)
It doesn't have to be transparent and it doesn't have to be humanoid. Your own quote says that. And, of course, it doesn't have to be crossing a road: your OP video was indoors. You are arguing against yourself.
Not sure what you mean by "An image superimposed over film" though. I don't think any of the examples we're discussing utilized film. Which one are you referring to?
I say "bug" because I don't want any quibbles over whether it is an arachnid.
Still ignoring inconvenient evidence, MR?
MR said:
Really?
Thus proving, I'm a ghost?
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Are you threatening MR with banning because he believes in ghosts?
That's not what I read. I read he's threatening MR with banning because he's intellectually dishonest. It has been explained to him over and over again (and you should know by now as well): it is ok to believe in ghosts, but it is not ok to be intellectually dishonest.
Uh what?
That reads nothing like a ban threat.
It's a notification of withdrawal of support for MR if/ when someone else proposes banning him.
Not at all
Close, but not quite.
Right on the money. Simply put, I'm not going to put myself between him and anyone who takes umbrage with his claims anymore.
I'm all for belief in the unexplained... my own experiences notwithstanding, I'm not foolish enough to think we know enough about the universe to say such things are completely beyond the realm of possibility. HOWEVER, such claims MUST have evidence worthy of the claim - video of "something that looks vaguely like a shadowy smudge" is not evidence - it's video of a vaguely shadowy smudge. Sight is perhaps the single easiest sense to fool, yet we are so dependent upon it that we will accept as fact what we see even if it makes no sense.
Is what is in MR's video a ghost? Possibly - I can't say with 100% certainty it isn't, because I'm not there to investigate it. What I can say is that there is also a host of other much more mundane explanations that could fit; insect on the lens (not the shroud, the lens), issue with the CMOS or CCD image sensor, speck of dust falling between the two lenses, et al.
Not at all
Close, but not quite.
Right on the money. Simply put, I'm not going to put myself between him and anyone who takes umbrage with his claims anymore.
I'm all for belief in the unexplained... my own experiences notwithstanding, I'm not foolish enough to think we know enough about the universe to say such things are completely beyond the realm of possibility. HOWEVER, such claims MUST have evidence worthy of the claim - video of "something that looks vaguely like a shadowy smudge" is not evidence - it's video of a vaguely shadowy smudge. Sight is perhaps the single easiest sense to fool, yet we are so dependent upon it that we will accept as fact what we see even if it makes no sense.
Is what is in MR's video a ghost? Possibly - I can't say with 100% certainty it isn't, because I'm not there to investigate it. What I can say is that there is also a host of other much more mundane explanations that could fit; insect on the lens (not the shroud, the lens), issue with the CMOS or CCD image sensor, speck of dust falling between the two lenses, et al.
My mistake.
@Kittamaru.
Couldn't you half support him?
Who will we depend on for quality ghost threads if MR gets banned?
Of course it isn't a ghost. It's an UNFO.
(unidentified non-flying object.)
But why get annoyed because someone believes it to be one.
Believing in the Dover Castle Ghost is no more unreasonable than someone believing in the Hindu God Ganesh, for example.
Just to be clear, I glossed over the "threat" issue because I think KC was more concerned with the "why", which is what I responded to. The "why" has caused its own issues in the past. But I agree that that wasn't technically a threat.
As I was saying:
As I just said, we're not annoyed because he believes in ghosts, we're annoyed with his intellectual dishonesty. It is baffling that you need to have this explained to you over and over again.
Enmos
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It's a ghost!
Enmos
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Nope... watch the end of the video... it shows that its a spider out of focus.!!!
OMG!
The ghost takes over a spider's body?
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