Discussion: Lorentz invariance of certain zero angles

Discussion in 'Formal debates' started by Pete, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. Tach Banned Banned

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    Now, I have had the solution for about two weeks now and I am wondering why Pete has suddenly dropped out from the debate.
     
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  3. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Yes, I'm almost certain you are.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    There has now been a gap of 1 month in this debate. Here are the pre-agreed rules:

    It seems to me that the discussion has stalled.

    Formal Debates on sciforums are not open-ended. There must be a way to end the debate.

    I will allow 1 week for the debaters to produce summary posts as agreed. Then the Debate thread will be closed.
     
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  7. Tach Banned Banned

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    The discussion hasn't stalled, I have had the solution ready as per debate rules for more than a month, Pete has abandoned the thread. As per the rules of the debate, we were supposed to present the solutions simultaneously , since Pete abandoned the debate this is no longer possible.
     
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  8. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Hasn't stalled yet, nor have I abandoned the thread.
    Life has intervened in various ways, but I see light at the end of the tunnel.
    We'll be up an running again in a week or two.
     
  9. Tach Banned Banned

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    Excellent, looking forward for your solution.
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Ok, but a month and a half is a long gap.
     
  11. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Tach, I've updated the tracking list (post 121). Let me know if there's anything wrong in it.
     
  12. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    I should perhaps point out that I made an actual debate post as well, just before the tracking post.
     
  13. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Tach, we agreed to rules in this debate.
    You aren't following them.
    Why not?

    The particular rules you seem to be forgetting are:
     
  14. Tach Banned Banned

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    Err, you took 5 weeks to answer.
    You use a patronizing tone?
    You don't answer a direct question?

    Just to name a few. So, what standing do you have to claim that I am the one not following the rules when you break them with impunity?
     
  15. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Yes.
    I don't mean to. I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

    That is against the rules. Please point out where I did so, and I will respond at once.

    It is not OK for either of us to break the rules.
    If you have a problem with something I do that is against the rules, please point it out.
    I will do the same.
     
  16. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Please post your explanations to the thread.
     
  17. Tach Banned Banned

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    ...and I did not complain that you are breaking the rules, quite the opposite, I waited patiently for you to finish your derivation.

    This is not the first time, please stop it, for good. If we are to have a dialogue, you need to show respect.



    I pointed out to you that your solution fails at subrelativistic speeds, see the reference to Rindler. I asked you (twice) to respond.

    Then please stop your complaints about my breaking rules.
     
  18. Tach Banned Banned

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    There is nothing in the rules that requires that, I prefer to keep all the derivations in one place.
     
  19. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    This is an administrative/rules issue, and shouldn't be in the debate thread.
    My fault. I am sorry. My post wasn't appropriate.

    Can I ask you to please present your arguments directly, rather than referring to an offsite source?
    If not, then why not?

    What question?
    I noted that in the tracking list as an issue to be addressed.
    As we agreed in the proposal, we're dealing with one issue at a time.

    I haven't checked Rindler yet. I may not have access.
    What edition of Rindler are you using?
    Are you able to quote or summarize the relevant material?
     
  20. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for your patience, but the rules we agreed on explicitly say there is no time limit.

    I agree that we both need to show respect.

    And I will. One issue at a time.

    If you ask a direct question, it will be answered in the next post.
    If you raise several issues in a post, they will be addressed one at a time.

    I will complain if you break the rules.
    And I expect you to complain if I break the rules.
     
  21. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    [thread=111135]Proposal thread[/thread]
     
  22. Tach Banned Banned

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    The arguments have been posted directly, it is the the bulk document that is kept as a complete paper (because it makes sense to have everything in one place, at least to me).

    This is not good enough, I noted this flaw immediately, even if it weren't fatal (it is) , you should have addressed it in the very next post.


    Good, this was the first issue flagged, let's deal with it.

    2006.

    I already did.
     
  23. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    I disagree. We've already started discussing the vector transformation issue, I think we should finish that issue first.
    I'll message the mods for a ruling.

    In the meantime, I've twice asked you a direct question you haven't answered. I will ask it again in my next post to the debate thread. Please answer it.
     

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