We are free, she isn't. You confuse freedom with instability.
Racist lady on Brit tram.
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We are free, she isn't. You confuse freedom with instability.
Some worrying posts even in a science forum???
A little clarity would be useful, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me?
Yes. There is not much use for freedom of speech when it only applies to people whose opinions you agree with. The hardest part being defining the "you"
Its interesting that the people around her did not even get excited enough to start an argument but youtube led to her arrest
A little clarity would be useful, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me?
Yes. There is not much use for freedom of speech when it only applies to people whose opinions you agree with. The hardest part being defining the "you"
I don't believe in Freedom Of Speech. That would be my speech.
The Thought police are tracking your IP right now...
okay. your speech has been revoked by censors - you are no longer allowed to participate in this thread. Get lost
Hmm I perceive someone who does not read Jane Austen
Sensibility refers to an acute perception of or responsiveness toward something, such as the emotions of another
I recommend a strong dose of reality
@adoucette
Because she was only being racist in the way that some British newspapers are racist.
I don't believe that she singled anyone out for abuse, and while swearing, I don't think she used any racist language.
I think they will find it hard to make the aggravated part of it stick.
Otherwise why don't they go and arrest the editors of the kind of rabble rousing newspapers that gave her most of her opinions.
If the justice system can prosecute her for her opinions, then they should also prosecute the Press that repeats the same stuff every day, but in cleverer language.
I shouldn't be surprised if the aggravated part of it is dropped.
Because she was only being racist in the way that some British newspapers are racist.
I don't believe that she singled anyone out for abuse, and while swearing, I don't think she used any racist language.
I think they will find it hard to make the aggravated part of it stick.
Otherwise why don't they go and arrest the editors of the kind of rabble rousing newspapers that gave her most of her opinions.
If the justice system can prosecute her for her opinions, then they should also prosecute the Press that repeats the same stuff every day, but in cleverer language.
I shouldn't be surprised if the aggravated part of it is dropped.
Hmm I perceive someone who does not read Jane Austen
Sensibility refers to an acute perception of or responsiveness toward something, such as the emotions of another
I recommend a strong dose of reality
Yes, take into consideration the emotions of other humans.
On the other hand there may be a national ban on "fuck off", newly designated as racial abuse
Should be considered as a legitimate offence.. yes.
K enough b.s are you serious? Please be honest.
Yes, I'm serious, I would raise punishments in many areas. The world needs order. Swearing would be punished by litter cleaning etc.
I declare war upon you.
"Fucking Polish"
"Fucking Blacks"
"You're Black, you're not British" etc isn't racist?
I doubt your papers publish that.
Well I think the difference is that according to Article 10 Human Rights Act 1998: Freedom of Expression, a general opinion expressed in a newspaper has more protection than someone yelling insults at someone else on a Tram.
Well there is that cleverer language defense (didn't work for Oscar Wilde though)
Why do you think they denied her bail then?
She was denied bail for her own protection.
That's what they said on the news.
I doubt she would refer to herself as English.
She'd be far more likely to say:
"Me , I'm Fucking English"
That's what they said on the news.
I doubt she would refer to herself as English.
She'd be far more likely to say:
"Me , I'm Fucking English"
That doesn't seem to agree with the reports that her solicitor asked for bail and it was denied.
In America perhaps. In Great Britain, public harassment is not legal.
In America, in many places, she would likely be asked to stop and face disorderly conduct charges if she didn't.
Pincho, I think we ought to do that when to do so does not (EDIT!) compromise our own sense of ethics.
But we aren't required to be nice to anybody.
Yes, I think that covers it. I'm with nietzsche here, she has a right to her opinion no matter how dumb it is
@Capt. Kremmen: I like your posts in this thread.
With S.A.M. on both points, nietzche on his...
I believe people have a right to say the most inane things in public...and those of us who disagree can respond appropriately.
http://www.turkpipkin.com/mag/fun/klan.htm
(I was with the Black Bloc...missed the mooning moment though...but still...good times
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