Do I need to dock/clip the tail of my Rottweiler puppy
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It is saint, but it's painful to the dog and unneccessary.
He's your dog. If you want to have his body parts removed surgically, I'm sure you can.
Legally can and morally ought to are two different things.
I doubt most of us are going to agree with the morality of the decision you've obviously made already.
So just accept that, do as you will and stop trying to win us over.
We are not ever going to agree you're doing the correct thing.
You don't really care what we think.
He's your dog. If you want to have his body parts removed surgically, I'm sure you can.
Legally can and morally ought to are two different things.
I doubt most of us are going to agree with the morality of the decision you've obviously made already.
So just accept that, do as you will and stop trying to win us over.
We are not ever going to agree you're doing the correct thing.
You don't really care what we think.
Correct, but there are ethical limits. You can't ethically fuck your dog because you are it's master, can you? Mutilitating your dog is also unethical.
It's done quickly, and it's over. The chicken doesn't have to live with a disfigurement, but your clumsy attempt at an analogy does raise a related point: At one point it was thought acceptable to keep chickens in battery farms. Opinion has changed, and it is realised this is cruel, so we (I at least) now only buy free range chickens. Opinions on what is acceptable change. Tail docking is a cruel practice and this has been realised. Only reactinaries are adverse to this change of thinking.
No it is not. It's barbaric. Stop making statements that are incorrect.
A thought came to me yesterday when I saw an un-docked rottie (and it looked damned cool with a tail) was that Joey and Saint have both admitted to using prostitutes, and both agree on tail docking. I reckon Freud would have a field day psycho-analysing their projection of pseudo emasculation onto their dogs! 
why can't you do what's righteous without passing the buck to a kennel club?
Yes, every last one.
I live in the UK. We got it banned in the UK. I can't make policy for other countries, but I can try and persuade individuals to give up barbaric acts.
No because I docked his tongue.
Stop being ridiculous.
It means we're a smaller country and these things are easier to accomplish here. The tide is turning in the USA too, and there is a strong movement looking to ban it there also, because it's recognised to be cruel and unnecessary.
That communicate with there tails?
Phlo your epic fail status dogs dont even feel it. Yet it hurts and alters there communication forever rendering them inept in social situations. Sure.
Phlo the dog whisperer.A thought came to me yesterday when I saw an un-docked rottie (and it looked damned cool with a tail) was that Joey and Saint have both admitted to using prostitutes, and both agree on tail docking. I reckon Freud would have a field day psycho-analysing their projection of pseudo emasculation onto their dogs!
Have you ever seen a boxer WITHOUT a docked tail? Outside of google, be honest now!
I have seen several boxers interact with docked tails!! I also have seen several dogs with regular tails interact!! It does not seem to hinder them as a dog lover I dont see how you can say this is not the case.
I've used a prostitute, smoked weed and have a dog with a dock tail.
I'm one crazy messed up mofo
Whatever you say phlo. If you stopped with the irrational contempt you would understand that cropping there tails and ears is more beneficial than not.
Here is the dialogue
Me: Cropping ears and tails decreases the likelyhood of serious injury. They still have tail and ears intact.
Phlo: Dogs cant communicate without there tails! They look prettier with it(?). They cant display body language in dog packs?
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But companionship is just as important to a dog as food, and more important than shelter.
I understand, but if you have to leave your dogs in the house all day, you absolutely must do two things in order to satisfy their instincts:
- Allow them to move around inside the house, not locked up in kennels. If they are not housebroken you can use Doggie Diapers on them. Being locked in a kennel all day makes them feel the way you would feel if you were locked up in prison.
- Allow them to socialize with each other. Dogs have a very strong social instinct and they are not happy if they can't touch each other, roll around on the floor together, and play games. Keeping them separated is cruelty.
Rottweilers need to do a lot of running. That's not the best dog for someone who is not home very often. The shih-tzu would be a much better indoor dog. A rottweiler is a huge responsibility and you are not a responsible person.
Why do you even ask such a ridiculous question? You have so many more important things to do for your dogs. Why did this even cross your mind? But to answer it, no, you should not give animals alcohol. There are a few exceptions, animals that can metabolize it safely. But it makes most animals drunk just like it does to humans. They will become clumsy, stupid and irresponsible. You really don't want a clumsy, stupid and irresponsible rottweiler in your house.
Saint, you do make all of us very angry. You don't take anyone's advice, you have no interest in treating your dogs with even a minimum level of kindness, and you ask the absolutely stupidest questions I've ever heard anyone ask about a dog. You'll have to forgive people for being angry. You have done nothing to gain our respect.
People are telling you that they have to stop reading this thread because the conditions in which you keep your dogs make them sad. Aren't you paying attention?
My "real" home in California is huge. About 3500sqft/400m2. We have five acres/2ha of land, of which about a quarter acre is fenced for the dogs. My wife has eight dogs there with her, as well as a parrot and several other birds.
But here in Maryland where I work, I live in the basement studio of my townhouse and rent out the upper floors. I have a very small yard in back. Therefore I have two Lhasa Apsos. They are not very active and not very social. They are quite happy to sit on the bed all day, listening for burglars. I let them out into the tiny yard, they run around three times, then come back in and watch TV with me for the rest of the evening.
I chose my dogs to suit my lifestyle. You have not done that. You have the wrong dogs for your life. In fact you have the wrong species. As I have said before, you should really have a cat instead. Cats are lazy and don't mind being left alone for long periods of time.
But you would probably be alright with a Lhasa Apso. We call them "dogs for cat people."
Is that your reference standard for kindness? If the government of Libya is not killing its citizens, then it must be okay?
Both, depending on whom you ask. I predict that it will be outlawed within ten years.
That's a dishonest argument. You know that dogs, of all animals, have a special status in human culture. Society's rules for dogs are not the same as for chickens, or even horses.
If you ask an American you'll probably find that most of us think they are more civilized than we are. That's why, as long as the planet keeps turning, Americans will die to defend England. They are our role models. Well except when it comes to food anyway, they don't know how to cook.