Islam Got It First...

what? uuh, what?

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Shadow, the toothbrush was invented in 3000 BC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush

Algebra, from the Babylonians, Indians and Greeks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra

The crank was Roman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_(mechanism)#History

Optics were developed by the (pre-Islamic) Egyptians and modified by the Greeks and Romans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optics#History

And hospitals, surgery and centres of learning far precede Islam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital#Early_examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgery#History

I'm sure Islamic scientists have made innovations, of course. But the invention of entire fields would be a misnomer.
 
The genius of Al Zahrawi deserves more fame.
His book was the basis of surgery for 600 years.

The only point of mentioning his religion is as an argument against the type of idiot who believes that people of the Muslim faith are ignorant and anti scientific.
There aren't any people on here who think that are there?

As for Muslims inventing the toothbrush.
That's ridiculous.

I won't look, but I bet if I did look I would find that Australian aborigines and African Pigmies and the Chinese, and any other number of peoples, used toothbrushes long before Mohammed was ever born.
 
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Captain Kremmen said:
The genius of Al Zahrawi deserves more fame.
His book was the basis of surgery for 600 years.

As for Muslims inventing the toothbrush.
That's ridiculous.
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yes true, the toothbrush was before islam,
and as for arabs, they used this as a toothbrush:

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:p

and yes, we didnt make entirely new domains, but we developed pretty much everything, also we did invent new things, like chimistry, and we did had a great medical history and etc... but what i don't know why this heritage and science, just stopped in the later centuries, but the arab countries are getting back to the field, ( and i hope if those oil rich arab countries could use their money in better ways, to solve it's problems and be a part of developed countries, as for my country, we're on the way. :D

The only point of mentioning his religion is as an argument against the type of idiot who believes that people of the Muslim faith are ignorant and anti scientific.
There aren't any people on here who think that are there?
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yup yup.
 
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GeoffP said:
Shadow, the toothbrush was invented in 3000 BC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush

Algebra, from the Babylonians, Indians and Greeks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra

The crank was Roman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_(mechanism)#History

Optics were developed by the (pre-Islamic) Egyptians and modified by the Greeks and Romans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optics#History

And hospitals, surgery and centres of learning far precede Islam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital#Early_examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgery#History

I'm sure Islamic scientists have made innovations, of course.
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well, wikipedia don't lie, but there still other bran new inventions, in that time, and very important developements almost in all domains..

But the invention of entire fields would be a misnomer.
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what about chemistry? also not forgetting some mecanical devices, also developement of astronomy, also the Esterlab, also the creation of the first univercity by Fatima al fihri

http://1001inventions.com/

check the site.
 
Shadow1 said:
yes true, the toothbrush was before islam,
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See, you can try to deny it but you're still holding this idea of Islam linked with technological progress close in your heart. Or Islam linked to Arabs.
One only needs to travel to Africa to see the silliness of that particular notion.

Still, I suppose one only needs to mention the word "Islam" around here before we get hundreds replying to a thread either decrying it or falling over backwards trying to prove how unbiased and tolerant they are.

You should take up a career in marketing. Any publicity is good publicity.

I'd be willing to wager that those same American schoolkids who are often reported as being unable to place Iraq on a map would still know what religion they practice.
Did the Arabic Illuminati plan all this, or are you guys simply taking advantage?
 
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The Marquis said:
you're still holding this idea of Islam ...
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no,

also, i can't say the arabic civilisation, i said in general, the muslim civilisation, and the muslim civilisation, contain, persia, tukey, and arab states, and if i say arab civilisation, i have to say what state, when did it exist, and when did it finish, and in what ventury, and etc... so, easier to say, the hall thing in general...

Still, I suppose one only needs to mention the word "Islam" around here before we get hundreds replying to a thread either decrying it or falling over backwards trying to prove how unbiased and tolerant they are.
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what??

You should take up a career in marketing. Any publicity is good publicity.

I'd be willing to wager that those same American schoolkids who are often reported as being unable to place Iraq on a map would still know what religion they practice.
Did the Arabic Illuminati plan all this, or are you guys simply taking advantage?
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what a h*ll? what?

Did the Arabic Illuminati plan all this, or are you guys simply taking advantage?
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you are sick you ...
go educate your self you empty-mind ball...
 
I googled it and got this:

Islam Got It First... - Page 13 - SciForums.com
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Old Today, 05:34 AM. Captain Kremmen is online now. What are the Arab illuminati? Did they invent the toothbrush? Captain Kremmen. View Public Profile ...
www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=2527068 - 2 minutes ago


I think the illuminati are on to us.
If you click on the link, you come to this page.
 
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Shadow1 said:
no,

also, i can't say the arabic civilisation, i said in general, the muslim civilisation, and the muslim civilisation, contain, persia, tukey, and arab states, and if i say arab civilisation, i have to say what state, when did it exist, and when did it finish, and in what ventury, and etc... so, easier to say, the hall thing in general...
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Apparently the Muslim civilisation no longer includes Malaysia, Indonesia and large swathes of Africa, among other places. Perhaps the monkeys don't appeal to you even when they practice the same religion?

They'll be a little annoyed with you for excluding them, you know.

you are sick you ...
go educate your self you empty-mind ball...
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"Empty-mind ball". I'm going to go around quoting that at people I find stupid tomorrow, just to see what kind of reactions I get (probably confusion).
I like it. Thank you.
 
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The Marquis said:
Apparently the Muslim civilisation no longer includes Malaysia, Indonesia and large swathes of Africa, among other places. Perhaps the monkeys don't appeal to you even when they practice the same religion?

They'll be a little annoyed with you for excluding them, you know.
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yes, but at that time, malysia wasn't a muslim, i don't know how islam reached them

"Empty-mind ball". I'm going to go around quoting that at people I find stupid tomorrow, just to see what kind of reactions I get (probably confusion).
I like it. Thank you.
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:D no problem. sorry, nevermind that i said it, lol, forget that i said it,
 
No offence shadow but I think there is a real language problem here. Why do you bother to argue with others in a language you have a limited understanding of, I mean don't get me wrong your English is relatively good and all but maybe not quite developed enough to comprehend the majority of the rebukes against your arguments.

At the very least I do respect your intentions.
 
Out of the thousands of members we have here, Shadow is, as far as I know, our only African of non European origin. He is a rare orchid on our lawn.

He is also a madcap.

Shadow.
You could use a spelling checker. Move to Google chrome and it will spell check your posts.

I told you that before.:p
 
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flakeyairportchunks said:
No offence shadow but I think there is a real language problem here. Why do you bother to argue with others in a language you have a limited understanding of, I mean don't get me wrong your English is relatively good and all but maybe not quite developed enough to comprehend the majority of the rebukes against your arguments.

At the very least I do respect your intentions.
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haha, ok, but i'm fine don't worry,
 
Well, this thread inspired me to download the 4 part BBC documentary "Islam and Science". The author/presenter is a Muslim mathematician and physicist. One of the first things he says, after explaining Indian numerals, is that the reason some Muslim had made interesting scientific advances was NOT because of Islam and NOT because of Arab culture but because of the physical location of Baghdad and that it was a melting pot of OTHER people and THEIR cultures.

Get it?

It's early on when Muslim's weren't so "Islamic" when they were open to different religions and different faiths and people's and cultures - is when the advancements are made. Which seems to be the case ANYWHERE in ANY CULTURE from the Japanese to the Incas.

Which is why I keep saying "Islamic" Golden Age is an oxymoron. Islam is a superstition - it is antithesis to scientific mindedness.
 
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