Jews antisemitism and sciforums

So are atheist Jews persecuted as Jews because Judaism is a race or atheist Jews identify with the tribe as Jews even after they abandon the religion?

 

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atheist jew is a contradiction
persecution is thru biological/cultural/legal heritage

the persecutor will not see the atheist. he will see the jew

 

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So religious persecution also embraces the atheist as part of the religious group they have abandoned?

 

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There were plenty of born and raised Catholics and Lutherans in Germany who received a rather unpleasant surprise the day the NAZIs came to inform them they were Jewish.

 

sam
in that context, impossible

 

well not quite as there are several perspectives at to what constitutes the def of a jew

sam?
any conciliation shit? an equitable solution for both parties?

 

Of course, a one state solution with equal rights for the indigenous with freedom for refugees from their bantustans, down with ethnocracies and chosen peoples/

 

are there any precedents for that particular solution?
any prior proposals of that nature?

 

Pretty much every occupied country on earth?

 

within current context please
israel/palestine

i guess we are all waiting on your ass

 

how far do you wanna take that?
human encroachment into a coyote habitat?

 

Sure why not? Are you an anti-conservationist?

I can't think of a single instance where genocide or ethnic cleansing can be justified, can you?

 

no
not if you put it like that

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fine
the buffalo shall graze from sea to shining sea once again (artistic license)
the indians, euros and africans will be repatriated

 

I honestly think that the mods have too much power here . Once I gave my honest and sincere opinion about Big Bang according to my knowledge and I got a stupid warning .
I will never ever forget this episode and it shows you that everywhere in the world there is INJUSTICE .

 

Someone said this? Or did you take criticism as necessarily entailing this. Links would help.

 

Go ahead and talk about Judaism, I had more faith in SAM than Lucy, but was then disappointed when she responded to the notion that Jews have a certain cultural cohesiveness by the example of a Jew victimized to run a Nazi crematorium. How much lower can you get?

 

But if I were to say Palestinians kill their own children or don't love them or strap bombs to their babies then it would be meaningful discussion?

James of course does not even see a problem with the demonisation of Muslims that he wilfully ignores while proactively shutting down any thread that offends him about Jews and banning people who make "antisemitic" remarks or deleting any comments that criticise Jews and which offend him. But you make enough derogatory comments about Muslims that its hypocritical to make noises when anyone else does the same about Jews.

Are we supposed to ignore all the negative aspects of Judaism and its followers because its "hate speech" to point out their individual and community failings? Its a fact that some Jews did send their families to the gas chambers, including their young children. Is this a comment on all Jews? No, but it doesn't change the fact that if you're going to claim all Jews look out for each other, stuff like this is rebuttal for such claims. Even the myth of the poor undernourished Jewish ghetto police is just that, a myth. Survivors of these ghettoes have recounted the brutality and abuse of these policemen, who were hunted down and killed by the Jewish resistance. Why pretend they were forced into it? Are the PA police who crack down on demonstrators against the Gaza war forced into it? The myth of Jewish exceptionalism is most pervasive among those who ignore the fact that surviors of the Holocaust are treated most shabbily in Israel than they are in any other place.

And the threads about Muslims, what do they "descend to"?

You're abusing your power here and being patronising about it. The IDF organ trade thread did not even mention Jews and since when is using an example from history to demonstrate a point "hate speech"? Are we not allowed to say that some Jews sent their children to the gas chambers? Is there a ban on saying Arabs don't love their children and strap bombs to them? Or is your touchiness on bigotry only reserved for Jewish children sent to gas chambers by their parents and not for Arab children presumably blown up by their unloving parents?

But you're free to host yours?

 

I don't think its racist to look at Judaism and its adherents in the same manner as everyone else is examined.

If it is racism then it should be banned for all, not just for Jews.

If you're not willing to ban it for all, then its hypocritical to pick out Jews and treat them differently.