Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

Discussion in 'World Events' started by StrawDog, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. disease Banned Banned

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    Ah, you've learned how to chant in time, along with your presumed friends?

    "Gaza is free" to, do what? Why did they elect Hamas, and why did Israel let its Palestinian herd of sheep do so? Why did they allow Hamas access to arms?

    Why did the Palestinians dig tunnels? Were they practising, towards the day Palestine becomes an underground nation, the unter-menschen will be living where they should be?

    Is that one of the verses, or the chorus?
     
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  3. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    You seem to have a problem understanding anything at all.

    How is Gaza free? They have been blockaded and oppressed. What do they use to build this "life" that you paint?
    Resist the murderous oppressor and pay the consequence of their courage.

    Why the need for crossings in the first instance? Why the need for a wall around the West Bank?

    Not many, that is why it the Zionist assault was/is so barbaric.

    The war will end when Israel starts a process of genuine peace and reconciliation.

    The Arabs are in the pockets of their Western masters. But that is changing.

    Good for Iran for having the courage to voice and uphold their compassion for the poor victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing.
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    There never was a House, we are talking about a land, and the rejection of a U.N. solution by the Arabs to that solution and the fact that the Arabs who received 90% demanded another 5% and got that and then went to war to steal the last 5%, and got their collective ass whipped.

    And for 61 years the Arabs have left the Palestinians in the status of refugee's.

    When the Arabs rejected U.N. 181 it became a land grab, and the Arabs though that they held all the Ace's, well guess what, Israel filled the inside straight King high, and held the land.

    So no house, no 4/5ths, won fair and square by right of winning.

    That is the History of the world, and nations, there has never been a Nation that wasn't established by war, all nations are founded because of the actions of War.
     
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  7. disease Banned Banned

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    "the rejection of a U.N. solution", which was arbitrarily made by several occupying powers, that one? The one that involved a level of Arab participation approaching zero? In fact = 0 for Palestinians.

    What about the >100 UN resolutions rejected by Israel?

    "When the Arabs rejected U.N. 181 it became a land grab, and the Arabs though that they held all the Ace's, well guess what, Israel filled the inside straight King high, and held the land."

    When the Zionists raised an army of militants and sent them out to rid the land of ungodly peoples, the UN supported this invasive "right of determination". The Arabs were never a consideration within the purview of an international body annexing land and handing it to the Zionists. Arabs were well aware of the dangers you highlight with: "Israel filled the inside straight".

    They hold the land by force of arms, as they grabbed it by force of arms. This is what actually happened rather than your religiously-inspired fairy tale.
     
  8. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Yes there was a house. Do I need to give you reams of reference material?

    My analogy in my previous post is exactly the reality of the matter. Yes it is THAT simple.

    That explains a lot. So History and the actions of war justify the human slaughter in Gaza today? Oh oh, war happens, why can`t they just get OVER it?

    Wait until the slaughter comes to your backyard.
     
  9. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The U.N did not make a arbitrary decision, and those Occupying powers had the right to do so by treaty from the end of WWI, the Ottoman Empire lost, and in treaty gave that power to the Allies, legal and just.

    That treaty from the Ottoman Empire gave legal status to any thing the Allies as the Occupying power wanted to do.

    And the Occuping Powers handed that power off to the U.N.

    And what are those U.N. Resolutions about?
     
  10. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    yeah but not all israeli wants that!!

    i dont think it is right to tarnish all the people of Israel with the same brush thats all
     
  11. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    the normal israelis civilians should be cursing and blaming there gorvernement for Backing Hamas in the late 80's early 90's as a counterweight against Arafats PLO/Fatah party!!!

    Its sick how monsters are created or backed with outside help to supress a population and then the population is punsihed for allowing the supression when the monster gets "out of control" in the eyes of the powers which created or backed them!!!

    As usaly the normal folk gets fucked over!!!
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    PBWY Zakaryia.

    That is the saddest fact, the little guy get's in the neck from both sides.

    Hamas is a idiot for keeping the fight going, and Israel no matter how hard they try to only target Hamas fighters is going to hit civilians, and they are caught between a rock and the hard place.

    Hamas needs to stop smuggling weapons to kill Israeli citizens, and as soon as possable Israel need to open the Boarder Crossings.
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Lets put it in another situation:
    Or again:


     
  14. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Here's the difference between America an the Arab world. Everyone is given equal chance to succeed. Unlike the Arab world you have to work to succeed well, in many middle eastern countries you are born into your social clas most frequently and there you stay.

    You don't have to be an indian to be an American, you just have to work hard.
     
  15. disease Banned Banned

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    Ah, so you do have your head stuck firmly up your ass? I thought so.
     
  16. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    You don't even know what those U.N. Resolutions were about, so who has their head in full rectal inversion syndrome?
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, all you had to do was get rid of the native Americans who were already there. And not be black, or a commie, or a Muslim, or <insert latest American paranoia>

    And apparently if you smoke pot in a party or have your dick sucked by an intern, you're finished. But kill a million people and you're the President.
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Not even close SAM, a major difference, the Patriot Won, and then made a Peace, and Great Britain became our staunchest Allie, and We became theirs.

    The difference being that, no matter what Żydowska Organizacja Bojowa did, they were going to die, if they made peace with Germany, they were going to the Ovens, if they fought, they at least died in their own cause.

    If Hamas makes Peace with Israel, they won't still be sent to the ovens, when Hamas stops smuggling weapons to kill Israelis, and makes a real peace, not a Hudna, the Dying will stop for both sides.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Except that the "Patriots" won by getting rid of the natives/

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    Not really, they were incarcerated for several years. And the Palestinians did not get violent until after the intifada. When their peaceful demonstrations were met with machine guns and tanks.

    Yeah, its worked so well till Hamas came to power in 2006 and in the west bank even now.
     
  20. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    No, they didn't. That was not a major factor in the success of the Revolutionary War.
    True. Mind you, other Arab countries didn't wait quite so long.
    Yes it did. Much better than the last two months.

    If you don't think losing a couple people a year and living in a poor house is better than watching 1000+ people die and having your house demolished, then I'm not so sure you have a firm grasp of reality.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Losing a couple of people a year? Living in a poor house?

    More like being separated from family and friends for decades, having your identity and history erased, your homes occupied by strangers, working for your occupiers because your options are limited, having your country taken over by foreigners who replace your way of life. I don't know any people who will not fight such loss of identity. Its liek being a Jew in the Warsaw ghetto. Or an Indian on a reservation. You either fight back or get erased from history.
     
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  22. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    SAM, why doesnt your country take in the Palestinians. Israel has never had a problem with it.

    Oh yeah, i forgot you guys hate the palestinians too.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah there's a pogrom every few years in India, for the Palestinians. They are just simply dying to get here, you see. I liek how Tyler dismisses it as a few deaths and a little poverty. Did you see the video in the link above? Thats what it means to be Palestinian, in times of "peace"
     
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