So, who would you vote for, Hillary Clinton or John McCain? I like McCain, but just think, if Hillary wins it will be like getting two presidents for the price of one. I mean, Bill will still be relatively in the know. some of the world leaders Bill met with will still be in office, and Bill will still get CIA briefings.
There is just no way that McCain is going to get the Republican nod for 2008. He's far too disliked within the party, and that's entirely his own fault. I think Condi, or Cheney, or Giuliani, or even Jeb are more likely candidates. But at this point I think Hillary is unbeatable, just in terms of superficial optics.
Well, would it be McCain/Clinton or Clinton/McCain? I think both would make strange bedfellows, but I don't know how politically powerful the duo would have. -ZERO MASS
giuliani? yeah, he will probably get the nomination. but I prefer McCain, and most people here probably like McCain more.
Yes, Ralph Nader is a great choice for President, even better than Kerry. But I'd totally settle for Hillary.
I made up some stickers I've been putting on things like H2's emblazoned with flags. Its made up with the blue background and flag theme just like Moron-Boy's '04 ones. And its says: ** -Jesus - Hitler '08- ** Freedom isn't free - Vote GOP!
I'd be voting the "Anything but Hillary" ticket. She's a stupid, weak-minded, bendy girl with no common sense. The democrats would be stupid to run her. She's not liked amoung women both blue and red. And her current inability to stick to her guns doesn't bode well. It would be negligent for them not to run someone with WOW appeal. Barrack Obama comes to mind as a hardline, straight edged, no jive talking young (not inexperienced) guy with a good head on his shoulders. Back him up with the experience of either Howard Dean or John Edwards and you'd have a win for sure. I'd even vote that ticket with a solid conscience. He won the election here in Chicago with an unprecedented 89% to win his seat in the senate. People like him, he's good people. Put Hillary anywhere on the ticket and I'll be voting Libertarian again just to see if we can get a third party on the ticket. Nader is past his prime. There is too much water under the bridge and too many questions about his sanity at this point. Ross Perot would probably beat Nader.
McCain, then Nader, then abstain. No way in hell am I voting for Hillary, heh. Barrack Obama would be a good choice for democrat. His lack of experience isn't much of a problem as he'd have a whole cabinet doing more than him as the president just basically takes advice from them and makes their decision off that.. so the administration runs the show more than the actual president. I'm all for having an honest person in the White House. - N
McCain would be more likely to win as a Democrat than as a Republican. A lot of Republicans, myself included, don't like McCain. He was, after all, the driving force behind the campaign finance "reform" that gutted the first ammendment. Still, as a Democrat, he would seem pretty mainstream and the media loves him, so if he switched parties he'd have a pretty good chance. He'll never get the Republican nomination. Hillary, on the other hand, is so hated by so many that she would serve to energize her oponnents and would greatly increase Republican turnout. I'd support Giuliani. He's a little liberal on social issues, but considering the way he cleaned up New York, I'd trust him to continue kicking terrorist ass which is, IMHO, the most important job of the President.
Its funny how much they hate Hillary. After Clinton left office I think most Dems never even thought about her anymore, but they neo-fascists kept bringing her up - obviously afraid of something. Making many of us think ''well geeze, if they hate her and obsess on her so much . . . I wonder what she has that scares them?!".
You'll likely have to wait until 2016, he won't be old enough to run for presedent by 2008. I'm curious about Hillary because I never hear liberals or democrats bring her up, but she is frequently on the minds of conservatives. Maybe its just because there aren’t enough prominent democrats left for them to make fun of, but I smell fear. I'm not sure if its that they think she is sure to be nominated, or if they are terrified of another eight years of Clintonian rule. They really couldn't hope for better friends in the Clintons though. Neither of the parties are economically liberal any more thanks to the Clintons. As for McCain, I'm fairly sure he won't be nominated. The republican party hates him, but they are pretty much the only ones who do. I don't thing Guliani will be run either, they need someone far far far right to keep the economic conservatives together with the religious right and the war mongers. He's too liberal to keep it together.
I disagree regarding Guliani. Us war mongers and religious wackos consider him a hero for the way he handled the situation on 9/11, as do most Americans. This status would allow him a lot of slack on social issues.
Giuliani is pro-choice, and that automatically takes him out of the running. Reproductive rights are definately not the religious right's bag.
You're wrong. It's the Democrats that have the abortion litmus test. Look at Arnold in California. Look at Giuliani. Name for me the prominent pro-life Democrats. So long as Giuliani doesn't rub his pro-choice sentiment in peoples faces and frames any comment on the subject in terms of how it's a horrible thing but government should stay out of it, he'll be fine.
I had the pleasure of hearing Rudy Guiliani speak at a charity function here in Chicago about two years ago. He is a man I admire and respect, and I think he would make a solid leader. However, he may not have the charisma needed to carry the election. Hero factor may carry him pretty far, but he also cheated on his wife and left her for another woman. That doesn't bode well in some peoples eyes. Barrack Obama is 42 years old, and meets the requirements for the presidency of the United States which sets the minimum age at 35. (Article 2 Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution) I still think that he'd win by a landslide against almost any Republican you could put him against. He's smart, and he gives it to you straight. Lets hope that the senate doesn't jade him too much. A Colin Powell/Barrack Obama ticket would be golden if it were possible. There is something about McCain that I do not like. It's the same feeling I had about Kerry... there was something wrong that I couldn't put my finger on. Usually when I have this inkling, it's because the person is dishonest.
