is it all really fun, drugs and music or just a big satanic goth ritual that blinds the ignorant one's

HA!
first of all.. what does the pic have to do with anything?
second... how would the two even relate?

although i myself have never been to a rave, i know people who go to them. three words come to mind: extacy, glow sticks, hepatitis. (and in detroit: menengitis)... goth and satanism were definatly not one of them. LOL:bugeye:

Yes, they are evil http://community.sierra.com/Images/emoticons/shrug.gif

Hepatitis? Surely people don't shoot up at a Rave...didn't think heroin was much of a party or social drug..

Clarify please? :bugeye:

First off, Welcome Divine!!!:)

Secondly, I am a retired raver and yes its mostly about drugs, music and dancing. But its also about unity. I know that sounds corny but watching 20,000 ravers climb a mountain to watch the sunrise or watching 5000 ravers all swinging their glowsticks to the same groove - was pretty awesome to see.... If your not into E, Acid or Mescaline - dont even bother going. I went sober one time and almost fainted from the lighting and the music. Everyone is so nice to each other, its really a great thing. Well, until the party stops I guess
And there were no gothic people at the numerous raves I have went to. Alotta freaks but no satan worshippers. Hope this helps..

Rave on!:D

I love ravers, they buy my clothes. :D No, that was ugly said of me.
I like the atmosphere in the outdoors raves, it's very natural, firendly and happy, even without drugs.
At those raves most people seem to know eachother to begin with, so it's all very relaxed. But I have been to raves with a very uptight atmosphere too, when being in style is all that matters and taking the right drug.
So they can vary, just as any other parties.

Writing this down actually presented me with a moral dilemma.
Am I with my clothes contributing to the drug hype around the rave scene?

using heroin is not the only way that hepatitis can be spread, and hepatitis b is quite common.. however, here menegitis is more common... at one rave in .. lansing.. i think.. kids had.. ring pops.. and they were diping it in sugar and crushed.. something.. might have been some form of extacy, dont really remember... one kid had meningitis.. spread like wildfire....

might have been some form of extacy, dont really remember... one kid had meningitis.. spread like wildfire....

Yikes! That why I never let anyone take a drink of my water, or a hit of my cigs!!! I wouldnt let anyone touch me at a rave either. They are dirtier than all hell (the rave wherehouses that is). I remember people always asking me if I wanted a massage. I was like "Hell no!" - in a nice way of course:D

one: what the hell is that
two: don't really like rave
three: what the point of taking drug it can kills if you not careful

"never leave your drink, and if you do, get a new one"
im constantly telling my mother that.. :p

"never leave your drink, and if you do, get a new one"

eh????

don't tell me what the point of this yet, I can figure it out

im glad you dont understand. it makes the rest of us ladies feel safer... :)


my freidns then-b/f once got a glass meant for someone else..they ended up taking him to the hospital to get his stomch pumped.. poor guy.. well sort of.. he's kinda of a jerk now. so... i guess i dont feel so bad for him afteral....

three: what the point of taking drug it can kills if you not careful

Well, thats why you are careful. Duh! Plus its fun:D And remember, more people die each year in airplane accidents then of Extacy:D

o.........k

and im sure alot more people ride in airplanes than take extacy.
i think ill take my chances...

but what if you took extacy mid-flight? would you be securing your safe landing?

Hehe. Nightfall, have you ever used mescaline/peyote, and is it easily attainable in Detroit-ish? Around here nobody's heard of it, except the old ex-hippies from the 70's...i thought maybe that nobody makes it or picks the cactus anymore, and if they do, maybe its not around town here. There's plenty of mushrooms or LSD though, for all your hallucinogenic needs! :D

if you really want something.. you can get it.... although. i dont know of anyone who keeps it on hand.... infact..i dont think ive ever met anyone who sells it at all..

Well you mention mesc and peyote, but ya dont know if it's sold? :bugeye:

It'd be awesome if there WAS some around here..or there. Or everywhere. Especially everywhere.

when did i mention?

Really, don't worry about it, i was just wondering if mescaline/peyote was prevalent where you lived, because like i mentioned earlier its literally unheard of around here.

PS - it was *StrGrl* who mentioned the mescaline..sorry for the confusion.

Originally posted by *stRgrL*
...But its also about unity. I know that sounds corny but watching 20,000 ravers climb a mountain to watch the sunrise or watching 5000 ravers all swinging their glowsticks to the same groove - was pretty awesome to see.... If your not into E, Acid or Mescaline - dont even bother going... Everyone is so nice to each other, its really a great thing. Well, until the party stops I guess

It's a shame they can't find that same feeling without the use of drugs. Wouldn't that be cool?

Originally posted by NightFall
they ended up taking him to the hospital to get his stomch pumped.. poor guy.. well sort of.. he's kinda of a jerk now. so... i guess i dont feel so bad for him afteral....

So what was in that drink that turned him into a jerk?:D

What can I say about the Dutch rave and Clubbing scene:

Holland is the largest producer of synthetic drugs, also famous for our Blue-Mystic 2ct7 wich was legally available for a while in the smartshops here.

Are fun drugs and fun music related?

- Tiesto
- Armin van Buuren
- Johan Gielen
- Niels van Gogh
- Ferry Corsten
- Armand van Helden
- Vincent de Moor
- Jonathan Petersen
- Paul van Dijk (haha no, he aint Dutch but German, but at least his name sounds Dutch)
- Erick E
- Michel De Heij
- Roog


Need I say More ?

There is a city near amsterdam, called "Zaandam" where you could start clubbing friday-night and NON-stop until monday-noon!

If one club closes another afterpartyclub will open and even afternoon clubs. Zaandam traditionally has a lot of gyms and bodybuilders, so it is not surprising that the merge of the clubscene and the bb scene started a nationwide GHB epidemic with the region Zaanstad as it's epicentre....

Like it's something to be proud of,....

Nope, actually it is causing a lot of problems, cause a lot of these kids think they can swallow caps of GHB just like mdma pills, ignoring it's much steeper dose-curve. Just this month GHB got scheduled as hard drug in Holland....

It was the health/nutrition-stores that sold GABBA supplements to fitness enthousiasts that prepared the market for GHB in Holland....

Not exactly proud, but I suppose I got carried away on a mini-roll there, sometimes you get that nice flashback when you read about the partyscene and a good party is scheduled tonight in club XL.
:p :D ;) :) :cool:

Isn't that a socalled: 'rape-drug'? I don't know of the effects, I haven't tried it, but I recon it's heavy,

once there was a woman visiting (she was dutch) and she was addicted to this stuff, she drunk like these 'shots' of it (!) really: she was off the world man, I swear ya, she couldn't talk any sense, jsut utterly crap came out of her mouth,

and when I see such things,...I just feel lucky that I never had to try it.:bugeye:

Greetz fukushi

Originally posted by Fukushi
Isn't that a socalled: 'rape-drug'?

Yes that's the one

I've never been to a rave, so I can't comment on the scene in general. I have a lot of friends who are very into it and thats fine.
HOWEVER, there was one time when I went to a park with my girlfriend expecting it to be a quiet place to hang out and to my dismay found that it had been taken over by an outdoor rave with music that literally consisted of one tone played over and over again without change at a volume that could be heard from probly 10 blocks away. That I didn't like.

That was probably a legitimit one,....you should find one from the underground, the forbidd'n ones! That party was probably just a distraction from the real one going on in the naburhood, somewhere verry close by I guess!;)

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