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Enigma'07
06-08-04, 04:56 PM
What exactly is a wormhole and what would cause one to form. I thought it had some thing to do with connecting black holes, but that doesn't make sense considering blackholes would seperate soth thing out beyond reconition.

Boris2
06-08-04, 08:38 PM
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schww.html

if you go to the home page http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schw.shtml

and read the whole lot...not too difficult to follow.....and quite informative.

Quantum Quack
06-08-04, 09:03 PM
The problem I have with worm holes is that when we talk of them we are suggesting a sort of journey over great distances that take little amount of time.
And I would suggest to creat a wormhole that takes time to go a light year for example would be a lot harder to create than a wormhole that is simply 2 dimensional or immediate in the time taken to travel.

compare a 2 dimensional door to a twenty second door way. or 4 dimensional wormhole with a 2 dimensional one.
The 4 dimensional door way would be a bugger to maintain stability where as a 2 dimensional hole would be intrinsically stable.

eburacum45
06-08-04, 10:50 PM
We have been using a fairly plausible and realistic method of making wormholes at the Orion's Arm Worldbuilding group for four years or so now; these are based on the theories of Matt Visser and Sergei Krasnikov; a pair of wormholes are inflated using negative energy, and one end is transported to wherever it is required by a slower-than light spacecraft.

some links
http://www.orionsarm.com/tech/wormhole_design_and_physics.html
http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~visser/pictures-gif.html
http://www.physics.hku.hk/~tboyce/sf/topics/wormhole/wormhole.html

eburacum45
06-08-04, 10:56 PM
An OA artificially inflated wormhole; you can see the light blue struts of negative energy...

Quantum Quack
06-08-04, 10:57 PM
I do recall reading a sci fi book that proposed just this.....transporting one end to a location. Can't remember the title or author...possibly Greg Bear..but I am not sure.

Gbz Unaq
06-10-04, 08:24 PM
This is what I posted on the other wormhole thread:I don't know to much about wormholes. What I Think wormholes are is a gate through a world between all alternate universes from that world it would be possible to reopen an other portal to any where in any of those universes at any time. By this idea you could travel the same diatance to any place. time and possibility sense there is an alternate universe for every possibility.

Gbz Unaq
06-10-04, 08:25 PM
and this:I think you can make them. You see when you put to plates together they attract and stick together because at that point and time there is escensually zero-space between them do to an anomaly that may be a rift in the space-time continum which by enhancing and enlarging you could (should this be a rift) make the rift bigger into a portal size that a human can walk through and jump on in. Anyhow thats how I get it. I'm not really that experianced in the field so if anyone can correct me if I'm wrong. Then again its all Theoretical Physics so I'm not sure you can be wrong.

Enigma'07
06-10-04, 08:26 PM
Sorry, I think I posted it twice on accident.

Boris2
06-10-04, 08:37 PM
>>>>You see when you put to plates together they attract and stick together.....

casimir effect? maybe.

Quantum Quack
06-10-04, 08:39 PM
I woudl speculate on this by suggesting that one method would be to identify the area of space you wished to travel to.
This portion of space being unique only to that portion of space...a signature if you like.

The space on the earth being different to the space on the moon ( at any specified location.)

By setting up a space that conforms you have thus travelled to that space.

(teleportation ) the same could be applied to creating gateways though not exactly a worm hole which I woudl consider an inferior gateway any way.

If you can imagine space as volume location unique......every location being unique die to spacial differences then oneonly needs to create an identical location and by very nature you have moved yourself to that unique location.

As no bit of space can be identicle. ( Like merging soap bubbles )

Quantum Quack
06-10-04, 08:53 PM
scenario

You climb into a special bus, the bus's computer identifies the space configuration yo wish to travell to. The machinery on board the bus changes the bus's innate space ( the whole bus ) to that of the destination and it thus becomes the space it wishes to be.....hello universe here we come :D
A gateway would be done using the same idea configured differently I would guess

Gbz Unaq
06-15-04, 04:06 PM
1.)Yes i believe it has something to do with the casimir effect but some site I read said during then casmir effect an anomaly In space-time accurs which could be th key to making a wormhole.
2.)Um, excuse me but that is very similar to stargate sg-1m with the coordinate system and It sounds like magic school bus with the "bus" scienario. When I want to use info from a show I change the wording i.e, car instead of bus. If you have no idea what i'm talking about then forget about the whole of #2
3.) The whole theory would other wise get an A++ at the science fair!

Alpha
06-15-04, 06:58 PM
Surprised no one linked here:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes