why the world is run the way it is

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Mike18ca, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. Mike18ca Registered Member

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    I expect to be called young and stupid.

    It is to my observation that the whole world is being run by guys over 60 yrs of age.

    Canada, Our prime minister that could scare you out of our country. Jean.C

    Usa--- P.Bush

    Iraq--- Sadam.H

    2003-60=1943

    Our modern world is being run by men who grew up before electricity was invented.

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    Their views are still very old school and have extremely limited views about the future generations. So it is my opinion that we will continue to refuse such accords as the Kyoto which the US through out the window and drilling holes while using our nuclear bombs as our main power over countries.

    I am not saying the world needs to be run by 30yr olds but lets be reasonable, we need leaders that understand beyond, oil=money=economic groth=???????????? oh yeah more pollution.

    Dam fools that's all I have to say.
     
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  3. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Gee, where do I begin?

    There is a reason why the world is run by the, shall we say, seniors. For the majority, they are the ones that don't just jump without looking. Younger folk do have the tendancy to say we'll bash your head in before looking for other solutions. Admittedly, this is generalization. You will find examples where this does not fit. (Bush and company comes readily to mind.) Another thing, that is much put down on, by the younger generation is experience. If you live long enough, you see examples you have seen before.

    Older folk, aren't as active on the whole as younger folk are. They generally are more sedate. You buck against custom of the world and custom of history. As stupid as it sounds, I think you will better understand when you are older.

    I believe you do have your historic times a bit off though. Those who are your leaders were indeed born during the age of electricity.

    The refusing of the Kyoto accords had little to do with whether we want enviroment improvements and more to do with what it would cost. Are you willing to lay out 1/2 or more of your income to support those changes? Are you willing to give up having electricity for say each night so that we can meet these requirements? Are you willing to give up your computer, tv, entertainment, and ability to drive to the store and buy your weekly foods? If you answer no to any of these then you too, are the problem...
     
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  5. Mike18ca Registered Member

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    "I believe you do have your historic times a bit off though. Those who are your leaders were indeed born during the age of electricity. "

    Our modern world is being run by men who grew up before electricity was invented

    I simply meant this as a hyperbole.

    As for the Kyoto Accord you are right but to refuse the idea as a whole I think was wrong, the way I saw it was that Canada reconized a need to change while the US was content pump'n oil.

    I would of loved to see an environmental commitie from both countries sit down and discuss the matter and come up with a much better accord that wouldn't cost the public all that much sacrifice.
     
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  7. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    As strange as it sounds, there is not a lot to support that the enviroment is as bad as the "green left" would have you believe. They have been successful only to the extent of saying, "Logic tells you more people mean more pollution". The trouble with that is it is not logic, nor is it proof, it is speculation. Rather than diverge off into this topic, I would refer you to the Earth Science forum where this is more properly discussed.

    Enviromental concerns are indeed being pushed by EPA, OSHA, and many other branches of government. Because they are not at the forefront of the newspaper does not mean that they are not concerns that are being ignored.

    For a moment, allow us to say that there is really an enviromental disaster looming on our future horizon. If that is the case then no matter our responce, it is too little too late. It took generations to put it there and will likely take longer to remove. Going back to days of wood burning stoves and farming by mule, only brings other disasters to the forefront. You see, we can no longer feed ourselves with food without the tech that got us here.

    Do we need more addressing of the issues of pollution and what to do about it on a world wide scale? Certainly we do. Just because an accord was to strongly worded and too stringently applied does not mean we can not try for improvement. To make effective that improvement will mean worldwide political agreement. Something that can not be brought to the table and acted on without the support of the world.
     
  8. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    OK. You're young and stupid. Don't want to kill a young man's expectations.

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    Seriously, you're generation's time will come to run the world, and when it does your children will be calling you old and stupid.
     
  9. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Truer words were never said, Coldrake. I am afraid I must raise my hand and say guilty...

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  10. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    The world is run the way it is because it is a very long time between impacting asteroids.

    And because DNA has a mind of its own.
     
  11. Mostly Harmless Thrower of Coconuts Registered Senior Member

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    *edited it to new thread*
     
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