why dont the aliens talk to the public, besides the idea that mabe the gov is hidding them.ad the histeria....... what are there intentions.....and why do they keep them silent...

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thats all i got

-dexter

Maybe they owe money and don't want to be found.

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It's all very large.

I think they're just pissed off at us, what with all the bad press and all.
Sulky bastards....they ought to grow up! http://users.esc.net.au/~nitro/chef_tab.gif

Tell you what, after reading some of the things that I have read in the various forms here, I'd think twice before being frendly to this planet.
Some think they are Satans demonds, and others think we should simply blow them away.
Read Religion, etc.
If they are real, I can understand why they
don't care to know us, or reveal themselves to us.
One of the reasons I question Rosewell is I
don't think if I were them I'd allow a ship to be held here and let idots like us study their advanced technology. I'd dam well come back and get it regardless of the price to be paid.

Lot of theories for that one. My theory of the moment is: They don't want to approach us at our own level, as they may see it as being non-conducive to the type of relations they would want to have. It is possible that they would rather wait until we get to the level upon which we could better approach them, and be able to 'handle' our end of relations with them. At this present time, I highly doubt we could hold up our own end of relations with them in any small sense.

But with any theory, who really knows. I wonder what my next theory on the matter will be.

Dexter,
Think about it, if your studying Snowtiggers,fitting them with trakers and taking blood and fur samples even stealing their young to be put in zoo's, would you in any way give half a rats ass about what they thought? nope. You wouldn't concern yourself with an inferer beings feelings.


AND ZAPS,
trust me, they ain't my guys :D


Dude



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well i already knew all that


i was wondering if anyone had any ideas which wernt so simple.....

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thats all i got

-dexter

Yeah, complicated answers are so much better. God forbid that a rose should just be rose.


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Dexter,

All significant changes in this universe should take place on the natural evolution way. Any deviation from this rule can case a disaster.

Can you give me an example (from our history) of any advantage for primitive community, which comes from the contacts with higher organized civilization?

Maybe it’s sounds silly, but in my opinion we will be able to possess the present ET’s technology when we can respect other civilizations.
In other words: to find out the rules of time travel and to recognize other dimensions we have to change our approach to the science from atomized to holistic approach. Then we recognize the proper way of our activity and I am sure we also recognize the destructiveness of violating of balanced systems.

I think that they exactly know what is the safe scope of information, which can be shared with us – exactly the same which is in your possession now.

Ivan


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Ivan-I don't think our 'respect for other civilzations' has anything to do with technological progress. We invented the light bulb way back when the US was using 'gunboat diplomacy', England was lording herself over her colonies, Germany was stomping Otto vonBismark around, and pretty much the entire Orient was convinced that the western world was some sort of land of devils that was to be tricked and humiliated at any expense. Compare the scientific advances of that age to the ones of this age. Talk about standing on the shoulders of giants. Understanding other civilizations does not make technology move, it only helps it move faster.

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I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight, kill, and die for your right to say it.

Like Einstien said,
We are not ready for the kind of technology we yearn for until after WW111. We need to learn a really good lesson about life and how precious it is before we start hyperjumping all over the place. Man still does not respect life. Until we learn to do that,we will have to remain in a holding pattern with technological advancements.

It only takes one idiot standing over a button to sour life.
(e.g. we meet aliens - they share tech. - idiot gets hold of deathray gun...)

Doood,

Haveyou tak'n something up against me?

By the Bye What is "LLAMO" sapose to mean in doood talk?

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Dave,

Man still does not respect life. Until we learn to do that,we will have to remain in a holding pattern with technological advancements.

How true! Love can move us forward in many directions.

I truly believe that man needs to get up to speed spiritually, first.

I don't believe lack of love is holding us back. I do, however, agree that it's a good thing nobody curently has a death ray. I think. I hope. Wait a minute,...666, what's that you've got there? OH MY GOD! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

* :eek:zap! :eek:*

OX,

The monkey made me do it!!!
I swear!!! No realy I do!!!
DO you want to hear?

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My life could have been black and white, but I had to color it.

Maybe I was too brief with my explanation.
Of-course there is not any direct relations between technological progress and respect for other civilizations, but there is indirect such relation. Let me explain:
The present science generally focus on details: we are reading genetic code, chopping atoms to small and small particles and etc. But such approach causing that we are loosing our general view of a whole system (earth) and relations between all subsystems ( mankind, nations, economy, culture, atmosphere, oceans and seas, vegetation, animals and other). Small example: we are close to invite the medicine against cancer, but ask yourself why the cancer is so big problem now? (the number of people with cancer still growing). Next question: What the technology development has to do with the quality of humans life? Do you all feel more happy or more satisfy with your live than your fathers did? And last question:
“Understanding other civilizations does not make technology move, it only helps it move faster.”
What for the faster move of technology is desired, if it doesn’t make our live better?
Simply say: when we are focusing only on details we are loosing our way. What the interest can ET have with sharing with us their technology, if we cannot understand all impacts of such knowledge to our live.
I believe that the knowledge required to galactic travels has quite different nature than ours now. And that such knowledge says : the best thing, we can do with closed system (like earth now) is to leave it alone with it’s natural evolution way of growing.
Maybe it’s not in the way but, let see how close to God conception is modern physics and mathematics now and thus how close is holistic science to the ethical notions.

Ivan


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Theres a Salem Witch Trial situation happening, only it's ET's and not witches who are on trial. See:

RELIGIOUS DEBATE/ ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK...ET OR DEMON.

I think this might keep them quiet and a little reluctant to show themselves if they are around. :eek:

because we would freak. i mean, imagine you coming into contact with one of them (be they 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 feet tall, gray, big-headed, black, pupilless eyes and jointless beings)wouldn't you go berserk?! i thought that i would want to meet them, even be abducted at one point, but then it hit me how scared i'd be. now it's probably true what some people say about the government exchanging our security for their technology, the government probably told them to keep quiet too, that way only our government could secretly and safely keep this super-tech.

It appears that all contact with such "Aliens" is on their terms not ours. If they have contacted any Government, then that or those Governments have remained silent for whatever reasons (valid or not)that they chose to. If "Aliens" had desired to contact the general public en masse they most likely couldn't be stopped from doing so. This begs the question you've asked already as to the silence. We can only assume that for the time being this is advantageous to them as well as any Governments in contact with them. While this covertness is uncomfortable to many, it's the standard modus operandi for many governing bodies seen or not seen.

Do any of you find it strange that we have
advanced more within the last 100 years than
in thousands of years?100 years ago we were
still riding horses and buggys.Think about it,space travel,computers,communications,
and so on.The government always has the best
technology years before we do,and yes its because of military use,but our rapid growth
was quick and sudden compared to how much
we evolved in the history of man.Hmmmmm.
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"ufo's hide in the clouds" :P

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Well, the technological growth over the past one hundred years has been amazing. It partly has to do with the ongoing developments that were carried over from the discoveries and work started during the Industrial Revolution. Many products were improved upon and developed into even better products and so on. However, if you are interested in reading about possible "alien technology" being "seeded" into twentieth century society, I recommend reading Col. Philip J. Corso's book "The Day After Roswell."

M-cyber,

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Zapper,

Witch trial? Really. *eye roll*

How about all of this "Give me space brothers, or give me death" BS that you're all spewing over here?

I guess it doesn't matter that the "witch trial" answers completely and entirely all of the questions regarding your "space brothers" and their intentions right? You know, all of the questions that you guys are stiiiiiiiiiill asking? Clue up or shut up I believe has been said to me before, so I'll just throw that one right back at cha guys. I'm not trying to be pissy, but really, I think that anyone who describes the demonic theory as a witch trial isn't really aware of what the theory means and how it's presented. I think that you probably just blow off anything "religious" as BS without looking into it. Hmmmm....there's a word for that isn't there? Close-minded, narrow-minded, paradigm, something along those lines. Don't be afraid, open your mind! I promise it won't hurt a bit.

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"Go Jesus, go! Go Jesus, go!"

I finally get to be the cheerleader that I always wanted to be but could not, as I was not a fluff chick.

Likewise Lori....you are so open-minded you're a closed-mind. What humanity doesn't need is fanaticism or extremism in any form. Surely you would agree that extremism in any form is bad...... Nazism...... fascism.... communism ...religious fanaticism. Why 'spew', as you would so eloquently put it, all this drivel which is so 'alien' to everything which consumes and cuncerns everyday life? Why do you so fervently need to be sensationalist? When you embark on such rhetorical tirades you only alienate people. What we as good 'Christian' or moral people should be primarily concerned with is leading good, honest lives, not prophesising such utterly carried exclamations. What is your defence against the 'anti-christ', the demonic? Throwing Holy Water at them? A state of sacred mantra, 24-hours-7-days-a-week-52-weeks-a-year? What is your answer? Whole conversion to your mindset?

And please don't latch on to my references to Nazism, fascism and communism as a defense. They were purely illustratory.

Is there a little guy with a really pissed-off and tired face? I think he would perfectly fit my mood. I thought such bombass and drivel went down with the fall of C17th Puritanism. Ahh well poor old Hawthorne and Miller are relevent after all. My English Literature teacher must have a point...eeeeeuuuucchhhhhh!!!

Likewise Lori....you are so open-minded you're a closed-mind. What humanity doesn't need is fanaticism or extremism in any form. Surely you would agree that extremism in any form is bad...... Nazism...... fascism.... communism ...religious fanaticism. Why 'spew', as you would so eloquently put it, all this drivel which is so 'alien' to everything which consumes and cuncerns everyday life? Why do you so fervently need to be sensationalist? When you embark on such rhetorical tirades you only alienate people. What we as good 'Christian' or moral people should be primarily concerned with is leading good, honest lives, not prophesising such utterly carried exclamations. What is your defence against the 'anti-christ', the demonic? Throwing Holy Water at them? A state of sacred mantra, 24-hours-7-days-a-week-52-weeks-a-year? What is your answer? Whole conversion to your mindset?

And please don't latch on to my references to Nazism, fascism and communism as a defense. They were purely illustratory.

Is there a little guy with a really pissed-off and tired face? I think he would perfectly fit my mood. I thought such bombass and drivel went down with the fall of C17th Puritanism. Ahh well poor old Hawthorne and Miller are relevent after all. My English Literature teacher must have a point...eeeeeuuuucchhhhhh!!!

OOppppssss soorrry

Maby we look like ZOO for them,....

We're a zoo to them. That's pretty funny. :D Yea, "we'll make great pets."

Actually, they don't talk cause they don't have to, cause they speak telepathically, cause they're angels (of the fallen variety). Gee, that was easy.

Oh, and there is no "physical" evidence of them for the same reason. They plant some here and there, just to keep the wonder perpetuated, but there is no physical evidence because THEY'RE NOT PHYSICAL. That's why they disappear and appear at will, float through walls, and their space ships are often seen doing the same things, or changing shape, or one splitting into many or vice versa. It's all a flippin' movie people. It's an illusion. They are demons!

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[This message has been edited by Lori (edited March 01, 2000).]

Their reason for non contact can be many different things of course, but look at it this way, if we as earthlings were to venture off into space and come upon a planet with a very early civilization on it, would you simply land and announce, Take Me To Your Leader? No, I don't think we would. We would probably keep a low profile, and if possible, not even let that civilization recognize that we are even there. If the whole "government sold us out for the technology theory" is true, then it was likely part of the agreement. In exchange for some of their technology, they can continue to examine humans as long as they keep an extremely low profile, and don't let anything that can prove your existence fall into the wrong hands. I do think, however, that they will eventually want the population at large to recognize their existence at some point. We know that they have been here since at least 1947, so 53 years is quite a long time to keep quiet. Then again, 53 years to them, could be the equivalent of a year to us.