i do do you?!?!?

Not really because I've never seen one or encountered one in my lifetime.

Until I can actually see one I won't believe that they exist anywhere except

inside peoples minds. Many people feel that have seen ghosts but they

could be just imagining something or hallucinating or even deranged in some

way. If you believe in them that is something that only you know about

because nothing has ever been proven they exist from a scientific point of

view. It doesn't mean your wrong only that no facts have been found to

show ghosts exist.

I fight constantly with the temptation to say that they don't exist in the face of a conceptually incomprehensible possibility that they do.

(So God help me.)

well not so much ghosts but spirits... this is mainly to due with the fact when my mom whent to see a spirit healer he was telling me things about my family that was so true it freaked me out.

What's the difference between ghosts and spirits?

Haven't seen any, but had some odd incidents happen to me and mine.

spose ghosts are here and have never moved on to another plane were as spirits are on the other plaine but can comunicate via certian people.. i know sounds liek a load of boloks

There is some seed of truth in most concepts in some way.

spose ghosts are here and have never moved on to another plane were as spirits are on the other plaine but can comunicate via certian people.. i know sounds liek a load of boloks

To me as well as many others there is no other "plane" . We live and then

we die, nothing more than that. We don't have "spirits" that we lose when we die, we only have life and death. I have never found that anyone that

contact the dead to be legitimate but only are con men and women out to take your money.

ok but can you please explain how a man from the other side of the roon could guess my dads name who wasent there my moms reunion with her family which she had not seen in years

ok but can you please explain how a man from the other side of the roon could guess my dads name who wasent there my moms reunion with her family which she had not seen in years

I can't explain that, I wasn't there but perhaps he investigaed you moms

records at the government office and found it out. You know many of your

personel records are available on the internet don't you?

true but it was the first time we met him and first time there....

true but it was the first time we met him and first time there....

Doesn't mean he didn't know who was coming, he could have asked those in

charge of the event couldn't he?

but it's pay on the day thing you don't buy tikets you just show up.

but it's pay on the day thing you don't buy tikets you just show up.

Theres a way to do it, I just don't know how. As long as you enjoyed the

show thats all that really matters isn't it. After all it was just a show,

remember. If he knew so much why doesn't he pick the lottery numbers?

i unno but it's just odd how he described my current house even though i dident live here then... just when you see those things it's realy a shock to your system if that makes sense?

i unno but it's just odd how he described my current house even though i dident live here then... just when you see those things it's realy a shock to your system if that makes sense?

Magic is very entertaing and you don't know how they do those tricks but

you know they are tricks, right?

How do you?

I totally believe in ghosts - Every few weekends me and my friend go find somewhere haunted to stay. Hostilerie in Goodrich being the scariest so far!

i do i have seen a dead girl she was kinda cute to...

I've had an encounter with a ghost.
They don't exist.
The capacity of the human mind for self-delusion is amazing.

i do do you?!?!?
yes.

I've had an encounter with a ghost.
They don't exist.
The capacity of the human mind for self-delusion is amazing.

Consider the possiblity that what you experienced was not what some people who believe in ghosts experienced.
The capacity of the human mind to deny its own experience of certain phenomena is amazing.

How could any atheist beleive in ghosts? Don't ghosts suggest an afterlife?

isent athiest just don't belive in a god not an after life.

Well im a nihilist (or at least i like to call myself one) so i dont really 'believe' in anything as such, although ghosts are something i come very close to believing in - mountains of evidence in their favour; photographic, video-tape, film, eye-witness accounts, group eye witness accounts.
The evidence is there really, the central problem is there's no theoretical scientifc model to support them. And people will always confuse a lack of a theoretical basis with a lack of evidence.
So it's not so much that we can't 'detect' ghosts, thats never been the problem, its that we cant account for them.
You can see the exact same 'data-blindness' if you look in scientific history at things like sprites or fireballs. These were all things that people had simply 'hallucinated' untill we had a proper framework with which to understand them.

isent athiest just don't belive in a god not an after life.

damn ash....that's a good question. I always though of them as one and the same. I guess they aren't are they. Reincarnation doesn't have a god...does it??

No, I've never do do-ed :confused:

I've never seen a ghost. I know people who say they have seen ghosts. But, from personal experience, I also know people can be nuts. So, what's the truth? I don't know. I wish I saw a real ghost, though, as this would evidence the after life.

A non-physical being could not live in a physical environment. Nothing to hold onto. It wouldn't make a sound since it could not interfere with air atoms and presumably it would not be able to activate photons either so be invisible.

However on pitch black nights out here in the wilds I do believe in mad axe murderers and maybe even wild animals like wolves so like a torch and at times an iron bar to discourage any real dangers.

How could any atheist beleive in ghosts? Don't ghosts suggest an afterlife?

It could be a change in forms. It could be a phenomenon that is not easily testible given our current technology.

Right now athiests and scientists and rationalists explain it away as being something THAT CAN CURRENTLY be tested or has been shown to happen - delusions. Of course there are phenomena that people said they experienced which were poo pooed by scientists that later, with changes in technology in some cases, were found to be real.

One an athiest starts saying actually it is ________________, not a ghost, they are simply making stuff up. Unless they can prove that.

An athiest, rationalist, scientist can say 'I think it is likely it is really this or that external or internal phenomenon. In any case I am not convinced.' But to say what is really going on without actual scientific back up is not scientific.