lot of fun to be had taking to the streets. however excepting for france and germany, the other major leaders have turned a blind eye towards the protest movement. bush doesnt seem to even acknowledge them here in the us. howard has the gall to say that " policy is not made by street demos" (or something to that effect) blair seems to be as stubborn as ever despite the fact that there is a large anti war sentiment in his country. i maintain war is inevitable and would like some opinions on what measures should be taken by the peace movement once hostilities break out! in the states we have a bunch of cowardly fucks in the opposition party that have kowtowed to bush from the time he was elected. the media does not help either. it appears that resistance is futile in the states. what about britain, is there a possibility that blair will be forced to resign? is he not despised by the average joe? i notice brother asguard calling for howards resignation. chances? what happens to the movement if the war goes well and the iraqi's throw flowers at the soldiers? will they still protest carrying banners (us troops out!). will the movement put pressure to rebuild iraq or forget about em like the afghanis? Democratic Party is backing Bush’s war
If the occupation goes well, I will study Peace no more, and become a Klingon. But it won't. Meanwhile, as energy prices go up and the dollar goes down, Members of Congress will stop drawing the window shades when the crowds appear. They will undrstand when the jig is up. On the streets, we'll show them. The amazing mobilization this week was not around Iraq. It was around the world, and I believe it is the tip of a very pissed-off iceberg. Bushevik plans are not going to work out. If they persist, me and several million friends of mine are comin' to get 'emPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
blair seems to be as stubborn as ever despite the fact that there is a large anti war sentiment in his country. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then he must know something you don't as he will get the sack if proved wrong! PS sack = lose his job!
• The now-acknowledged fraudulent document offered by Britain to support Iraqi links to weapons of mass destruction that turned out to be an old thesis by a US student you mean he knows stuff like this? prove what wrong? that saddam does not have wmd? i always assumed he did but yet i would not go to war over that the question here is what are we prepared to do for our govt to be more responsive to our needs? how can we tolerate a leader that wants to fight a war that most do not want?
Well, the least we can do is to manifest our opinion as the world citizens have being doing for ages. If we do not do it, we will not be calling to conscience any political body and events would not go down into the annals of history as they should. We should always be aware that politicians are not much more then puppets, the ones that are actually moving the string have a power and a mentality far beyond our wildest dreams. Ask your self, why its (as an example) the Trilateral society and other invisible societies full of ex-politicians in their membership roster?? :m:
rather than attributing world events to the subtle machinations of secret societies or imagining vast conspiracies spanning the entire globe, i find it more plausible to follow the money. to be more specific, in the case of the usa, this war seems to be a "get rich" scheme tied in with an re-election campaign no? yes? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Yes. "..."get rich" scheme tied in with an re-election campaign" Amazing there is not higher intelligence, though- The Busheviks are about to make America poorer, and will not get re-elected. My only problem with my own theory is: Who the hell are we supposed to vote for?
that is hard to do in australia becaus its ILLEGAL the PARTYS money may come from subsicriptions but its controled by the electral comission, which also gives public funds to party in the case of howard its really easy, he is ONLY the head of a party and can be removed easerly if they want to if he doesnt want to lission its time for the back bench to look to there OWN interests and vote costello
Letter to Phil Barresi Dear Mr Barresi i have met you a few times when i was at heathmont and when you came to give an australian flag to one of my friends at 3rd ringwood scout group. Every time i met you, you say that if there is anything you can do to contact you well i find there is, REMOVE HOWARD see he is no longer a fit PM, a PM represents the people of australia but hes not, infact a direct quote from him says that he will ignore the will of the people as iralivent now i know it must be hard for you to vote against someone you have surported but a rabid dog MUST be put down if you wish my vote in the next election you will vote for a new PM, costello would be nice or maybe you know someone better but its time for howard to go i am intending to put this letter up on a website i help run, www.sciforums.com altho it is run out of canada it has a large group of australian and victorian members please do what is right for yourself, your electrate, the country and the world and use your vote to remove howard Anthony Corrigan ******* Ringwood east, 3135
• The now-acknowledged fraudulent document offered by Britain to support Iraqi links to weapons of mass destruction that turned out to be an old thesis by a US student you mean he knows stuff like this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No of couse not,that was just put forward for people like you,who have better contacts than any of the govenments in the world,to base what you say on!
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! why bravo asguard. that is an obvious start! what about acts of civil disobedience? strikes? i am talking about the kind of shit that will get you arrested! refuse to pay your taxes. refuse to do anything until your demands are met. Those who profess to favor freedom, yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. (Frederick Douglass) disobedience screw the police approved protest route
i dont pay taxes at the moment cause i dont have an income and its impossable NOT to cause thet basteds take it straight out of ur acount as for strikes im at schoolPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! i cant aford to fail this corse cause my parents paid for itPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! but i will be out at every protest i can get to (ie everyone in the city)
what outrageous claims have i been making? what controversial viewpoints have i been espousing? you do realize i said that saddam probably has some wmd capabilities? there are probably numerous violations of un resolution dating back quite a few years that could used as a reason for military intervention. yet i still do not see the need for this shit. the least i demand of my govt is the ability to lie convincingly and not get busted. plaigarised documents maketh not good evidence!(Psalm 119:195) odin have you at any time been in the employment of the oil industry? i demand an honest answer! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
odin have you at any time been in the employment of the oil industry? i demand an honest answer! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No never! I have to take what my gov say to be true,as I do not have any way to know what is really going on,as I said T blair will get the sack if he is proved wrong.
of course i did not mean you as an individual do that stuff. it could get quite dicey by yourself. the key here is the power of numbers. govts can hardly kill or lock up sizable portions of their population
if they refuse to listen to the people on the street - then move the protests from the weekend to weekdays, walkouts and a general strike will make them listen. shut down the most important thing to Bush, Blair and Howard - the economy.
shut down the most important thing to Bush, Blair and Howard - the economy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why?what info do you have?That makes you right in this matter,please share it with me! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
well trades hall have already declared that if war breaks out all unionsts, union work sites ect will stop work
Asguard NO WAR FOR OIL ------------------------------------------------ Asguard please share your proof for this with me,as I have only seen lose accusations about this. & America has said it will use the oil money to rebuild Iraq,& then give the Fields over to them.
"America has said it will use the oil money to rebuild Iraq,& then give the Fields over to them" Those are going to be some big words to eat; let's not forget them.
