love, fun, wealth, fame?

I've definetely got 2 of those, I've had a bit of another and I try to have as much of the other one as much as possible, though my idea of it may differ from other's perspectives.

But my main wish really, is that I keep my good health and don't have to suffer some painful or delibitating disease before I die.

Wealth would be nice, and world peace of course.

satisfaction/understanding

Satisfaction comes with love, achievements and age, Understanding comes with love, achievements and age. Old, wealthy and wise...nice.

Understanding which would lead to wisdom. A healthy body and mind would be a close second.

Pizza, women.

Rule the world

Mine's pretty simple.
All I want is a billion dollars.

my wish is to comprehend

Even if you ask people to tell 10 wishes of each of them, I still have more, and all of them are of the highest priority.

please, Give No,1 wish, or undecided.

Okay, I'll sum em up:
Happiness

please, be specific.

brains

hard to be specific yinyinwang, I'm somewhat wishful...

death

No death.

Anything else is merely a temporary and pointless distraction.

If you could live forever, then those "distractions" (which you deem everything but immortality) would be what occupy your time, so if they are pointless, then so is eternal life.

By the way, I would wish for the ability to instantly understand any subject of my choosing, and have my understanding be on par with the leaders in the field.

I want an entire chapter dedicated to me in the history books of the 31st century.

edit: draw your own conclusions.

Originally posted by Dapthar

By the way, I would wish for the ability to instantly understand any subject of my choosing, and have my understanding be on par with the leaders in the field.

You just described the matrix.

My wish is to be satisfied in all I do

Dapthar,

If you could live forever, then those "distractions" (which you deem everything but immortality) would be what occupy your time, so if they are pointless, then so is eternal life.You miss the point. Everything you can do now is temporary and pointless because you can never appreciate anything for any significant amount of time or engage in any long term projects because you are currently destined to die. It is only after knowing that death is not inevitable that you can plan for something longer term and truly enjoy it.

To get people to understand, appreciate, and conserve the natural environment and to have them live a life based upon a naturalistic view of the universe (as opposed to religious morality). Removing morality, pity, capitalism, humanism, and restoring traditional values to the world would be included in my vision.

Originally posted by wesmorris
satisfaction/understanding

Love is my No.1 wish.:o

Prepare to get screwed again and again if that is your wish.

to live as full an experience as posible.
to feel absolute pain and agonny, to know what all consuming love is, to hate someone/something with all my being, to know what complete and utter bliss is. to feel each pole to its absolute extreem, and live to learn from it.
i want to be the most hated man alive, i want to be worshipped like christ reborn, i want all the power in the universe and i want to know how it feels to have all that power taken from me. i want to be completly powerless and know how it feels to be lifted from that to godhood.
i want to know whats its like to be completely numb, mentaly, emotionaly, and physicaly. i want to know what its like to be so overwhelmed by every feeling thought and emotion possible.
i want to feel and know and see everything. to experience every possible experiance i can.
to see every possibilty this universe has to offer and to experience each one of them.

of course this is impossible, but that doesnt stop me from wishing, does it?

Originally posted by Cris
Dapthar,

You miss the point. Everything you can do now is temporary and pointless because you can never appreciate anything for any significant amount of time or engage in any long term projects because you are currently destined to die. It is only after knowing that death is not inevitable that you can plan for something longer term and truly enjoy it. I doubt your characterization is correct, otherwise, humanity would have simply sat around waiting for eternal life, not accomplishing anything that you would deem meaningful. However, every single field in the Sciences has had an advancement that has forever changed it, and these advances are both permanent, meaningful, and did not need to discoverers to be immortal to lend meaning to their work.

Secondly, I doubt that eternal life is needed to "appreciate anything for a significant amount of time", since currently, I can not recall any activity that I would require immortality to truly appreciate. The simple fact is that everything becomes boring over time, and excitement is usually a product of experiencing something for a limited amount of time. Take roller coasters, for example. The first time one rides a new roller coaster, it may be exciting, however, I doubt that feeling remains after the 20th ride. Simply extend this concept to most conceivable activities, and one soon becomes bored of almost everything long before a million years has passed. After that, one is simply living an endless, boring existence.

Finally, I believe that the main idea that you are thinking of that needs immortality to complete is exploring the entire universe. However, if the universe is infinite, then this goal is pointless, since one could never achieve it. Why? Consider the real line, which is uncountable. Even if the universe was 1 dimensional, you could never see it all. However, you may state that the positive integers are countable, therefore, if the number of sites you wish to see is in 1-1 correspondence with the positive integers, you could see them all if you lived forever. However, recall that the universe is in the grip of entropy, thus, even if you could instantaneously teleport to every site of interest in the universe, you would have to spend 0 time there if you wished to see all of your "vacation spots" as they were when you envisioned them. Otherwise, any stars you would wish to see would have died, galaxies would have collided with one another, civilizations would have become extinct, etc. Also, you must consider the fact that unless the universe is cyclic in nature, all energy will essentially become unusable for work, therefore, if you wish to live past this point in time, you would most likely have to enter a state of permanent hibernation, and never come out of it. So you eventually, you would need to become a zombie of sorts simply to stay alive, since frankly, there wouldn't be many discernible differences between you and those who are already dead.

So, to summarize, eternal life isn't as rosy as you may think, for one can accomplish meaningful tasks during the span of their finite lives, and still be able to enjoy certain activities to their fullest. Waiting around for eternal life simply wastes one's life.

Hi:
I wish there were no diseases, no poverty and no power struggle and no man killing his/her fellow man all over the world.
Thanks

at the moment a 'Nature' paper.

Love is my No.1 wish.

Bend over, spread your cheeks, and forget the KY jelly; you're getting screwed in the ass for the rest of your life.

Originally posted by tablariddim
I've definetely got 2 of those, I've had a bit of another and I try to have as much of the other one as much as possible, though my idea of it may differ from other's perspectives.

But my main wish really, is that I keep my good health and don't have to suffer some painful or delibitating disease before I die.
you may not suffer from physical disease, but may mentally feel vague.

Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
at the moment a 'Nature' paper.

Do you mean:

a) getting your work published in the respected periodical "nature"?
b) recieving a copy of a paper published in the respected periodical "nature"?
c) some kind of toiletry?
d) a shipment of your very favorite "natural" paper for like writing or making copies?
e) an essay regarding the proverbial "birds and bees"?

Lemme analyse myself:
1) Money-> hellz yeah! I want bags of em.
2) Love-> not to med extent.
3) Knowledge-> As much as the universe can hold
4) Fame-> No stage for me, okay?
5) Body-> Just let me do some backflips....
So.....

Originally posted by wesmorris
satisfaction/understanding
being understood or understanding?

Both of course. :)

I want eternal life for all and an irrevocable end to all sexual impulses.

As mundane as it sounds or lacking in depiction or validation of ideas based upon...I want happiness. I want probably what everyone else wants in this life; some more terrified by the thought than others and denying themselves the hope that happiness can exist in one's lifetime. I hope that I will find it.

Whatever else happens in between is just mediocre. So I guess you can say I'm placing an unrealistic dream upon myself. Maybe even burdening myself without wanting to accept the fact that life is pointless and living = pain. I'm not goth, but it's true. Through pain we come to realize what is really good in our life and, unfortuneately, we sometimes overlook those things. Maybe happiness will not come to me in the form it may come to someone else, but I desire happiness above all.

I don't think it's something anyone else can give you, either. I think true happiness comes in wisdom, experience, and knowledge.


I want to be happy.

Originally posted by wesmorris
Both of course. :)
Talented often get the later and miss the former.

Too true.

attempting both may derive mental problems.

we disagree. :bugeye: (please note that the 'we' was placed there to indicate mental problems)

You may understand. If you attempt to express your understanding you cannot expect to be understood. Rationally, you can only hope - as you cannot control the mental processes of others. Mental problems (meaning any type of problem really) arise any time you expect something that you shouldn't.

reason?

Are you expecting understanding when expressing yourself? Otherwise why do you express in the first place?

Because you hope to be understood. If you expect it, you'll likely be dissappointed. That can be a problem don't you think?

sure ,Try to keep the balance.

The point is that if you don't expect it and it happens anyway, surprise for you, yay! You get a gift. Otherwise your only gift is most likely a problem.

That is how god punish you in a cunning way.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
That is how god punish you in a cunning way.

Or you might say it's how you punish yourself due to your ignorance.

That is something I have to disagree.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
That is something I have to disagree.

Sorry, I mean it's how you punish yourself for having expectations you shouldn't have, and being too stupid to change your expectations. Ignorance just seemed like a shorter way of putting it.

Never mind. It is a free discussion.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Never mind. It is a free discussion.

Sorry, I didn't mean "YOU". I just meant that if a person expects stuff and is dissapointed all the time and doesn't change their expectations based upon their constant disspointment, that is kind of stupid.

I saw when you say "you". it is not "me" in particular. But "me" is also included as one of them.
What I would like to disagree is that when the giver is correct objectively, the reciever may not react correspondingly in the same correctness. So blaming the ignorance of giver is not correct.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
I saw when you say "you". it is not "me" in particular. But "me" is also included as one of them. What I would like to disagree is that when the giver is correct objectively, the reciever may not react correspondingly in the same correctness. So blaming the ignorance of giver is not correct.

You must be looking at it differently than I. I was merely making a comment on expectation, which is (as I see it) an inherently individual activity. I don't see how there are two people involved.

never mind again. feel free to interpretate.

Originally posted by korey
death
what makes you think so?

Contra Reality: To see everyone in the world live unselfishly in spiritual harmony, love and understanding.

Reality: Live unselfishly in spiritual harmony, with love and understanding of every one in the world.

Happiness.

Being happy is the best part of being alive. That is, it's better than clutching your stomach after you've been shot there, and better than sitting around in boring english class waiting for it to end.

I would think health is related to happiness. How can you be happy if you're in great pain (assuming you don't get happiness that way). So as long as my health isn't in the way of happiness, health is unimportant.

That said, I wouldn't wish for happiness. Happiness is something I can get from other things. I would be happy if I knew everything (and to stop counters to that, I know children are molested everywhere, I know governments are relatively corrupt.. those things don't impede *my* happiness). Then I could be happy AND amuse myself with my vast knowledge.

If I just wished for happiness, that would be like wishing for an end instead of a means. So I'd be happy, but I might be living in poverty with cancer (unless the wish assumes you want a means to the end, not just the end). I wouldn't complain because I'd be happy, but I'd rather not have to live like that.

Knowledge

Also, I'm already happy but I spend all my time increasing my knowledge. So I might as well wish for that knowledge and then go play UT2003 or something.

Happiness and Knowledge.....indeed :)

ability to travel in time

Originally posted by exsto_human
Contra Reality: To see everyone in the world live unselfishly in spiritual harmony, love and understanding.

Reality: Live unselfishly in spiritual harmony, with love and understanding of every one in the world.
Do you think it is realistic to understand every one, do you understand 9/11?

Originally posted by jjhlk
Happiness.

Being happy is the best part of being alive. That is, it's better than clutching your stomach after you've been shot there, and better than sitting around in boring english class waiting for it to end.

I would think health is related to happiness. How can you be happy if you're in great pain (assuming you don't get happiness that way). So as long as my health isn't in the way of happiness, health is unimportant.

That said, I wouldn't wish for happiness. Happiness is something I can get from other things. I would be happy if I knew everything (and to stop counters to that, I know children are molested everywhere, I know governments are relatively corrupt.. those things don't impede *my* happiness). Then I could be happy AND amuse myself with my vast knowledge.

If I just wished for happiness, that would be like wishing for an end instead of a means. So I'd be happy, but I might be living in poverty with cancer (unless the wish assumes you want a means to the end, not just the end). I wouldn't complain because I'd be happy, but I'd rather not have to live like that.

Knowledge

Also, I'm already happy but I spend all my time increasing my knowledge. So I might as well wish for that knowledge and then go play UT2003 or something.
If you forget all your wishes, you will be happy.

Originally posted by silverbulb
Happiness and Knowledge.....indeed :)
knowledge comes more from pain than happiness, so you can not get both at the same time.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
Do you think it is realistic to understand every one, do you understand 9/11?

Yes it is realistic, and no I do not fully understand 9/11 I am not that advanced yet. All I can do is try and strive to do so.
I am sad for the people who suffered and lost their family members and I am sad for the poor people who were so lost that they decided to do such an act. Neither do I fully understand The Final Solution, the inquisition, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. but none the less I am sad for the people who have commited these acts, their suffering will be many times worse than that of their victims.

Originally posted by exsto_human
Yes it is realistic, and no I do not fully understand 9/11 I am not that advanced yet. All I can do is try and strive to do so.
I am sad for the people who suffered and lost their family members and I am sad for the poor people who were so lost that they decided to do such an act. Neither do I fully understand The Final Solution, the inquisition, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. but none the less I am sad for the people who have commited these acts, their suffering will be many times worse than that of their victims.
We can not understand such extreme acts, not because we are stupid, but because we are not stimulated and live the same way as they were and did.

Originally posted by yinyinwang
knowledge comes more from pain than happiness, so you can not get both at the same time.

If by pain you mean the pain of studying for late nights. But if I wish for it then I won't have to endure any pains that come from the pursuit of knowledge. Knowledge makes me happy; thus, I would be happy.

Originally posted by jjhlk
If by pain you mean the pain of studying for late nights. But if I wish for it then I won't have to endure any pains that come from the pursuit of knowledge. Knowledge makes me happy; thus, I would be happy.
free knowledge is facial.

Originally posted by Morteza Olangui
Hi:
I wish there were no diseases, no poverty and no power struggle and no man killing his/her fellow man all over the world.
Thanks
sounds like paradise.

Originally posted by ILikeSalt
My wish is to be satisfied in all I do
by whom?

Complete knowledgable unity and yet, singularity, of all things...universally.:bugeye:

Universal Harmony anyone?

Originally posted by BinaryMixer
Complete knowledgable unity and yet, singularity, of all things...universally.:bugeye:

Universal Harmony anyone?
like god.

yinyinwang said:
We can not understand such extreme acts, not because we are stupid, but because we are not stimulated and live the same way as they were and did.

Most people cannot understand such extreme acts because they do not bother to learn why they happened. In the US this is generally a combination of 1) wilful misinformation of the people by the government, and 2) the public's total failure to educate themselves.

Even in the relatively well accepted version of WWII, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were A-bombed by the US so that Japan would surrender to the US instead of Russia, since the US was desperately afraid that the entire world would become communist.

Genocide was NOT restricted to WWII - this is one of the most pernicious lies spread in the mass media today. The Khmer Rouge killed about 2 million people in Cambodia in an attempt to eradicate the native population; anytime in the past thirty years, Israel would have wiped Palestine right off the map if they thought they could get away with it; the war in the Former Yugoslavia carried genocidal overtones. This is to say nothing of other related politically driven efforts to destroy an ethnic group in other ways, like the forms of institutionalized rape that have been spoken of in undertones in the news recently.

Along with these hideous things that the general public doesn't hear about, there are a host of lesser hideous things that also go on - industrial "accidents" in foreign countries caused by American companies who don't bother to observe safety measures, economic measures and sometimes lawsuits by US corporations to keep developing countries in the dark ages, and wars declared by the US government because of interests that are obviously ECONOMIC and not moral as they claim.

Since the general public has no idea that this is going on, they don't understand why all the other poor people of the world don't care when someone blows up the WTC. Usually they don't care because someone just blew up their house and family last week, and no one feels sorry for them.

I think my wish would be for everyone to open their eyes and look at what's actually going on in the world.

Have kids...

BBH
Yes, as we can see, people are concerned with their own satisfaction, not others feeling. That is a problem.

Nono, I'm not talking about people pursuing personal gratification to the detriment of others.

I'm talking about a culture of ignorance. This is the ill wind that blows nobody any good.

yinyinwang,

Yes, as we can see, people are concerned with their own satisfaction, not others feeling. That is a problem.
Don't expect people to care about others. I have been expecting that for years and it is quite frustrating...:(

My dream have always been to make the world world happy. It was my dream since I was a small kid. Now, I just don't know anymore. I don't even have a place for myself! How can I help people if I can't even help myself!?!? I've been fighting for years and years just to have a place for me to be. In Brasil (my home-contry) I couldn't work because the unemployment there is too high and I had no experience - haven't got my first job yet. Here, in Canada, I can't work because the government don't allow me. I feel like a person without a place to live...! :(

Not to mention that nobody wants to share the dream with me. With all that I just feel excluded, rejected and ignored. My life is not nice, and have never been. I can barely live my life, and although I want to help other people I simply CAN'T because I have already too much work to do to make my own life the least possible LIVEAVABLE....!

So really... I don't have much hope left to help other people. Maybe your life is not a disaster as mine is. So I hope you will never give up on carrying for others...

BigBlueHead,

Nono, I'm not talking about people pursuing personal gratification to the detriment of others.

I'm talking about a culture of ignorance. This is the ill wind that blows nobody any good.

We live in an individualistic society. You should expect such thing.

Capitalism and the "American Way" REQUIRES people NOT to care about others. This is the whole concept that drives the system. That's what Karl Marx tried to change, unsucessfully, because greddy people tried to implement it using for their own benefits (i. e. USSR government trying to get lots of money to compete with US).

The communist and socialist systems were designed to lead mankind to Anarchism. They weren't designed to produce products like missiles and spacecraft. That's why it failed miserably in the USSR.

Yes, but if everyone actually stops to educate themselves they can at least understand what's going on; the US already has a small class of frustrated intellectuals trying to break free, but there's nowhere to break free to.

Originally posted by BigBlueHead
Nono, I'm not talking about people pursuing personal gratification to the detriment of others.

I'm talking about a culture of ignorance. This is the ill wind that blows nobody any good.
People are not born non-ignorant and since learning is painful, at least not hurry to the general public. So the material attractions are so abundant, concentrating on mind issue is not easy. Thses will all leads to lowering morality.
when people try to amend the inside weakness with outside rules, the rules are not reliable too, people manipulate rules.
frustration, yes. when the bad years comes, frustration leads to destruction.

Truthseeker:
I understand your problem.
a good social system should lead people, mot led by greedy people.

Originally posted by Avatar
ability to travel in time
spiritually maybe.