we never left the yelm there is no place to go

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  1. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    So space is misunderstood it is more like a ball of glass that keeps shatering increasing the need to aply energy to change orintation. :bugeye:
     
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  3. CANGAS Registered Senior Member

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    That's easy for you to say.

    But not so easy for me understand what you mean.

    Why don't you try again to phrase your statement in understandable english?
     
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  5. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    space time as we understand it is an illusion.{not that it dosent egist} think of string theory and how all the "extra dimensions" are curreld up. If the yelm contained all information in some proto primitive form in cluding the 4 dimensons of space time then where does space time expand into. there is no place for it to go.
    um, try this, if you are in an ifinite universe then you are the center becaus no mater wat direction you point the ray extending from you goes on forever this can be said for all things contained in said univers the only thing that is difrent is how you are oriented in space time. in other words every thing is in the center super imposed through each other. this is where spin comes in if you think about it when you walk arround the Earth some of your energy is transferd to it causing an ever so slight wobbel in the spin of the body in question. in this thought experiment this slight wobbel is transferd to the entire univers and just like two bodys in constant motion can not tell if the other object is in motion it can be thought that your "walking" caused the entire universe to orient arround and through you.
    so what does this make space time? i see it as an ever increasing complexity or the relationships between objects become more and more intricate. spin right for so many seconds spin up and so on like a very weird squashed clock work you arive at your end point.
     
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  7. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    yeah.... that made no sense at all.

    how is wobble just like two bodies in relative motion?
     
  8. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    and what is a yelm?

    according to google:
    yelm=A double handful of reeds or straw, laid on a roof as a thatch.
     
  9. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    yelm is the stuff of "every thing" as it egisted before the big bang. relitive motion is a mis speak i ment constant motion. in transfering energy to another body helps put them in sincranisation spinning in sincrinasation = constant motion. aceleration is diffrent.
     
  10. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    let me guess, your first language is not English?
     
  11. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Of course space doesn't expand into anything; space simply gets bigger, creating more space.

    Thes rest of your ramble I cannot easily understand. Is this all your own ideas, or did you pick it up of some website/book or other? How far have you been educated in physics?
     
  12. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    Um, no i just cant spell. heh Yes it is mostly my own idea im certanly no phd, but that dosn't make the idea invalid. You just don't get that I am not trying to invalidate any thing I'm just looking at it from a different perspective. Think of a volume of space that is compleatly full, in order to move one thing you must move every thing. With no swelling allowed the only motion is spin. think about a bag of marbles, spin one they all spin. Try a combination lock, with the right rotation, it unlocks. Saying that space is getting bigger is the same thing as saying things are becoming more complex think of a sheet of paper that is smoth and one that is crumpled. What canged is the number of orientations arround and through the paper. Moving the paper is the same as moving a ball on the paper relitive to each other. All I'm really saying is motion is a function of complexity{number of spins energy of spins and directon of spins} going toward somthing is = to drawing somthing toward your self and that is why it is impossible to tell the difrence when two bodys are closing the gap between each other. Get it? Belive it or not I am quite articulate in person.
     
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  13. Alejandro -2 Minutes To Midnight- Registered Senior Member

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    hmmmmm.

    you must hyave left something out there.

    i dont think anything can go on forever.
     
  14. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    The infinate is at best a philosophical question, don't let any one tell you one way or the other no one knows. But numbers go on and geometry says that a sphere has an unlimeted amount of points {stranegly enough so does a line segment with end points no less}. If you pass a ray from the center of the sphere through any point you get an endless amount of directions. Another way to look at it is, chaos theory,{excuse spelling} or the Mandelbrought curve which says: take a line segment and draw a triangle in the middel now in the middel of each line segment draw more triangles in the middel of each new segment, the result is an endless amount of triangles. If you fallow the line what results is a sprial that never closes it just gets tighter and tighter this is quite close to a {spelling} Ferbernachie spiral. How this relates to spin is any ones guess. Perhaps this is what acceleration is.
     
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  15. CANGAS Registered Senior Member

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    Fiberwhatsi?
     
  16. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Actually that kinda makes sense. If you roll a ball, it moves reltive to the paper. If you move the paper that the ball is sitting on, the ball will also roll and move relative to the paper. Try it yourself with a marble or something.
     
  17. AntonK Technomage Registered Senior Member

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    Ethon, if English is indeed your main language, and you KNOW that your spelling is not really up to par, then perhaps if you want people to read your writings and consider your thoughts then you should invest in either spell check or a dictionary. I'm really not trying to be rude. You can even use Word or another word processor. Just type your post there first, use spell check to fix it, then copy and paste it here. Even better, take the initiative to improve your spelling and use a dictionary manually, it will force your mind to remember the spellings better.

    -AntonK
     
  18. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Space is matter like anything else, but it's invisible to our senses.

    Common sense says that the universe must be infinite, because it's impossible to imagine an absolute boundary with no space beyond it.

    Of course, if the universe is "something", it probably can't go on forever, because "something" should have a beginning and an end, a cause, a boundary.

    But maybe the universe is nothing. Nothing is the only thing we can understand, it's the only thing that doesn't need an explanation or cause. Everyone understands it, but no one understands "something" because something is a word we use to explain "something" we don't understand.
     
  19. Alejandro -2 Minutes To Midnight- Registered Senior Member

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    Use Opera browser, it has a "Note" tab, he's prolly not too concerned w\ spell checking tyhough.

    You guys wait till i post my response. It's gonna be mind blowing.
     
  20. ethon jubal Registered Member

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    I'm sorry for the mushy posting, I will make more of an effort to be more succinct in the future. Alejandro I'm looking you in the eye and wating with bated breth.
     
  21. Lensman Registered Senior Member

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    Hey man, can I have some of what you're smokin'?
     

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