my wife heard a voice recently, she was home alone by herself in the bedroom reading, then she heard a womans voice right up close to her ear and it said "she will be alright" my wife did not reply just looked around but obviously saw nothing because she was alone in the house,


i thought she was playing a trick on me, but she is not messing around, i have questioned her about it trying to seek logical reasoning for it, it did not come from outside or through the wall, it was not a voice inside her mind like intuition etc, it was just a loud but soft spoken voice right up close to her ear clear and crisp sounding, as if an unseen person was sitting next to her talking into her ear,


the funny thing was that she said it made her feel very very calm and she was not scared, wich is strange because she is easily scared, now i am the one looking around the house slightly cautious lol, wich is even more strange,


how is this possible? im sounding like a wacko but to be honest what else can explain this but something like a ghost or something invisible? everything has been covered, it was 100% a real voice comming from a spot right next to her head, not comming from outside of the room. no air vents no people in the house nothing atall,


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this may sound liek a strange question, but did she really hear it or did she think she heard it?

1.) drugs
2.) she was asleep
3.) imagination (book?)
4.) mental breakdown
5.) drugs

lol no she actualy heard a voice, a real voice, as she described it to me "a real voice just like the one you are using to ask me questions right now"


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1.) drugs
2.) she was asleep
3.) imagination (book?)
4.) mental breakdown
5.) drugs

1 she doesent take drugs or even drink booze,
2, no she was awake.
3.no imagination does not sound real,
4,no she is very stable and not crazy.
5, no



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seriously it was a real voice i trust her. she is not crazy or a liar. she heard a voice and it was comming from within the bedroom not outside, and she thinks it came from somewhere very close to her head.


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Who do you think the disembodied voice was speaking of, do you have a
relative/friend that is ill?

1 she doesent take drugs or even drink booze,
2, no she was awake.
3.no imagination does not sound real,
4,no she is very stable and not crazy.
5, no

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1.) then that's not it.
2.) how do you know?
3.) maybe you just have a bad one
4.) are you sure? auditory hallucinations are a sign of schizophrenia
5.) you sure?

Who do you think the disembodied voice was speaking of, do you have a
relative/friend that is ill?

her grandmother is ill at the moment. but she is not "alright" as the voice stated, she is in a bad way at the moment.

we have a first born child on the way aswell, she is pregnant. and it better not be talking about our child, because i want a boy.


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1.) then that's not it.
2.) how do you know?
3.) maybe you just have a bad one
4.) are you sure? auditory hallucinations are a sign of schizophrenia
5.) you sure?

1, i know
2. because she was up reading a book lol,
3, no mine is good, i bet you cant make a real voice from imagination.
4, she is not crazy yes im sure, she is very sane. but just heard a real voice.
5. yes.


talking in bullet points is rather annoying :)




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i used to think people who heard voices were just crazy, and it was all in the mind. but now my opinion has changed, maybe they actualy do hear real voices from outside sources and it turns them insane.


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k, fine..

a lot of people have dreams and think they're real all the time.
maybe some psychedelic drugs she used before are catching up to her :D
and do you have a PhD in psychology? :P

i'm just very skeptical... i don't care who told me they heard a voice.. i think literal.

either a.) someone is in the house or b.) the voice was conjured



sorry, she's a mental case, druggy, or asleep :P


edit: oh or was really into the book, what book is it?

k, fine..

a lot of people have dreams and think they're real all the time.

and do you have a PhD in psychology? :P

i'm just very skeptical... i don't care who told me they heard a voice.. i think literal. either a.) someone is in the house or b.) the voice was conjured

sorry, she's a mental case, drugged, or asleep :P

no phd.

that was my standpoint for a good few hours aswell, i couldent accept that a real voice was heard, in my eyes it was either in her imagination or it came through the wall or from outside the window.

she was 100% awake though, i know dreams can feel very real, i have had lucid dreams myself, and i know how real a dream can be. but she was awake reading. i know people can drift off, but when you drift off you remember waking up from drifting off.

i questioned her like an FBI agent trust me, i couldent accept it just like that, it took ages to drum into my head that it actualy happened, i can tell just by looking into her eyes that it was real,


ofcourse i dont expect everyone to just accept that it happened and was real, that would be stupid of me to expect that, people should always be skeptical, but i trust her judgement and after talking to her about it i now accept that it happened,


i never thought anything like this actualy happened to people. i thought they were all just crazy, i hope i dont hear a real voice that would actualy creep me out,


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edit: oh or was really into the book, what book is it?

the laws of plato.


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ok then, my last thought is you believe in ghosts :P which i don't..

so, i think you're both nuts

no offense tho :D

ok then, my last thought is you believe in ghosts :P which i don't..

so, i think you're both nuts

no offense tho :D

i dont believe in ghosts. but im finding it hard to come up with other explanations, (yes i sound like a nut) maybe somebody has found a way to turn invisible. or another dimension interacts with ours and people can breach it, (yes even better,im sounding credible now) i dont know what to think. but i trust that it was a real voice and not from her mind.


maybe she has adopted some kind of psycick ability.


ps, no offense taken lol i understand fully,
pps, i dont know if she was really into the book or not at the time.

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On the other hand since she's pregnant and the body chemistry changes, plus there's the natural worry about the health of the baby and the added worry of her grandmother's illness... "weird" things happening would be par for the course.
I wouldn't bother about it unless it keeps happening. Just one those "Wow, did that actually happen? That's weird and kinda neat at the same time" moments.
Especially as your wife wasn't scared by it.

Subliminal ventriloquism?

On the other hand since she's pregnant and the body chemistry changes, plus there's the natural worry about the health of the baby and the added worry of her grandmother's illness... "weird" things happening would be par for the course.
I wouldn't bother about it unless it keeps happening. Just one those "Wow, did that actually happen? That's weird and kinda neat at the same time" moments.
Especially as your wife wasn't scared by it.


she has asked her midwife about it, and the midwife said that is not a normal thing for a pregnant woman to hear a voice. even when you worry about somebody who is ill,


it wasnt a wierd thing that came from her mind though, it was a real voice comming from inside the bedroom, and thats the strangest part, that she was not scared by it,

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it wasnt a wierd thing that came from her mind though, it was a real voice comming from inside the bedroom, and thats the strangest part, that she was not scared by it,


Humans are "programmed" to hear voices from outside of their heads - "hearing it from inside the bedroom" rather "a voice in her head" is natural.

Humans are "programmed" to hear voices from outside of their heads - "hearing it from inside the bedroom" rather "a voice in her head" is natural.

i have tried but cannot make a noise inside my mind sound like its comming from outside of my own head/imagination.

try it yourself, try to make a real sounding voice of the same quality when somebody speaks to you,

it cant be done,


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i have tried but cannot make a noise inside my mind sound like its comming from outside of my own head/imagination.
Because you are knowingly trying to do it and are not having the same chemical imbalances as your wife....
It's a fairly well-known phenomenon.

Because you are knowingly trying to do it and are not having the same chemical imbalances as your wife....
It's a fairly well-known phenomenon.

if you heard a real voice comming from your room, but you knew people were in the room, but they all deny speaking, and your house was on a remote island with no other humans,


would you think that one of them spoke and is lying because the voice was a real sounding voice,

or would you accept that it was a chemical imbabalnce? (im just trying to set an example)



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First guess is that one of them is lying. But if they all deny it and I'm going through a known condition which causes chemical imbalance then fair enough.
When I was little I used to "hear" my grandmother telling me to get up. But she wasn't in the house at the time. The "voice" was in my head, but I "heard" it with ears... or I thought I did. Because tha's how humans are used to things.

First guess is that one of them is lying. But if they all deny it and I'm going through a known condition which causes chemical imbalance then fair enough.
When I was little I used to "hear" my grandmother telling me to get up. But she wasn't in the house at the time. The "voice" was in my head, but I "heard" it with ears... or I thought I did. Because tha's how humans are used to things.

but how can you hear something thats in your mind. it doesent make a sound, the only way you can actualy hear something is if vibrations go through your ear,

your mind cannot make sounds that can be heard.


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One time I was sitting listening to a friend of mine talking, and instead of his words, I heard a saxophone solo. There was no stereo on or anything. I said, "I didn't understand anything you just said because it sounded like someone playing a saxophone.". He said I was weird.

One time I was sitting listening to a friend of mine talking, and instead of his words, I heard a saxophone solo. There was no stereo on or anything. I said, "I didn't understand anything you just said because it sounded like someone playing a saxophone.". He said I was weird.

yeah thats kind of strange man, i dont understand how people can just hear things though, whats the science behind it? because i thought sound was strictly vibrations in the air that we recieve through our ears, that are then processed in the brain,

how is it possible for the vibrations and processing side of things to be skipped, and a sound just to be produced from within the mind itself,


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your mind cannot make sounds that can be heard.

That's the point. The voice is in your head but because humans are used to hearing things through the ears the brain misinterprets the signal and convinces the "listener" that the sound is external. But it isn't.

That's the point. The voice is in your head but because humans are used to hearing things through the ears the brain misinterprets the signal and convinces the "listener" that the sound is external. But it isn't.


i cant see how we could prove this with the current level of technology. if this were true then we could manipulate and create an example of this mental behaviour with a subject.


if it was proven 100% with hard facts i will believe it straight away.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5346930.stm
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-09/uom-chv091306.php
http://boingboing.net/2005/07/13/why_voices_in_your_h.html

"This research could also explain why female voices are considered to be clearer then male voices. This could be linked to the fact that female voices are interpreted in the auditory part of the brain, and are therefore more easily decoded."

yeah thats kind of strange man, i dont understand how people can just hear things though, whats the science behind it? because i thought sound was strictly vibrations in the air that we recieve through our ears, that are then processed in the brain,

how is it possible for the vibrations and processing side of things to be skipped, and a sound just to be produced from within the mind itself,


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No, I did hear the sound of my friend's voice, only instead of interpreting it as intelligible speach, my brain interpreted it as music. It's possible that your wife heard something else, and interpreted it as speech.

the first 2 links didnt say anything about actual testing from scientists, the last link was the most scientificaly informative, but it dit not show evidence and proof that the voices people hear came from within the mind,


it shows that when hearing an actual voice it lights up different parts of the brain when hearing male and female voices, and also that male voices are more common to people that have an illness,

is there any factual proof that shows what im looking for?

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No, I did hear the sound of my friend's voice, only instead of interpreting it as intelligible speach, my brain interpreted it as music. It's possible that your wife heard something else, and interpreted it as speach.

yeah anything is possible this sounds like the best theory so far.

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The first two links say research... and Manchester Uni is doing another project. Who researches? Monkeys?
Of course they didn't show evidence and proof. I haven't got time to Google for stuff you should be looking for. :)
They were quick links I found. I did something about this stuff during my psychology studies, but ignored most of it because I was more interested cognitive psychology... sorry.

The first two links say research... and Manchester Uni is doing another project. Who researches? Monkeys?
Of course they didn't show evidence and proof. I haven't got time to Google for stuff you should be looking for. :)
They were quick links I found. I did something about this stuff during my psychology studies, but ignored most of it because I was more interested cognitive psychology... sorry.


yes monkeys.

thanks for the info though it was a good read, and i guess i win the debate by default, :)


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yeah now we found out that the child is a girl,

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yeah thats kind of strange man, i dont understand how people can just hear things though, whats the science behind it? because i thought sound was strictly vibrations in the air that we recieve through our ears, that are then processed in the brain, how is it possible for the vibrations and processing side of things to be skipped, and a sound just to be produced from within the mind itself?That's a physicist's definition of "sound." A psychologist's definition--perhaps even a physiologists's definition--is different. Sound is nothing more nor less than a brain activity that only correlates very highly with physical sound but not perfectly. The sensory centers in our brain do all kinds of weird things. Certainly we've all felt phantom tactile sensations when there was nothing touching our skin. People misinterpret raw visual stimuli and "see" things that aren't there all the time, as anyone knows who's ever served on a jury. What's so remarkable about our auditory center doing the same thing?No, I did hear the sound of my friend's voice, only instead of interpreting it as intelligible speach, my brain interpreted it as music. It's possible that your wife heard something else, and interpreted it as speech.Absolutely. I've recounted the story before of my (American) friend who lived and worked in Japan and speaks the language like a native. Yet even today this is such a remarkable phenomenon in Japan, that when he walks up to a Japanese person and speaks in Japanese, they "hear" him speaking a foreign language and can't understand him. He's careful to approach strangers from behind so they can't see his American face, and they understand him perfectly.

That's a physicist's definition of "sound." A psychologist's definition--perhaps even a physiologists's definition--is different. Sound is nothing more nor less than a brain activity that only correlates very highly with physical sound but not perfectly. The sensory centers in our brain do all kinds of weird things. Certainly we've all felt phantom tactile sensations when there was nothing touching our skin. People misinterpret raw visual stimuli and "see" things that aren't there all the time, as anyone knows who's ever served on a jury. What's so remarkable about our auditory center doing the same thing?Absolutely. I've recounted the story before of my (American) friend who lived and worked in Japan and speaks the language like a native. Yet even today this is such a remarkable phenomenon in Japan, that when he walks up to a Japanese person and speaks in Japanese, they "hear" him speaking a foreign language and can't understand him. He's careful to approach strangers from behind so they can't see his American face, and they understand him perfectly.

i have never seen, heard or felt anything that wasnt real the same as a real thing.

and i have taken lsd in the past, i still didnt see or hear things that i thought were real,


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