http://environment.newscientist.com...iles-dont-feed-climate-change--meat-does.html Unsure how repeatable these results are, also it's not the reason I am veggie so makes little difference to my choice of diet but interesting point. Some suggest being veggie is more ecofriendly than driving a hybrid car. And the best claim (which I admit sounds like rubbish at first but makes sense) "Swapping your hamburger for a veggie burger just one day per week will save as much carbon energy as is produced by driving 1860 kilometers".
i am not eating veggie burgers, i like to have a nice piece of meat between my teeth! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I am tempted to say so does my wife and she's a veggie, but that would be crass. I think since my footprint is very low due to being veggie and using public transport and walking being my prefered method of transport I should bump it up a little to a more to meet the average. Maybe I should start nightly tirefire parties or something. Environ destroying suggestions welcome.
I doubt vegetarians produce significantly more gas than meat eaters. Yeah I know pulses do increase it a little but compared to the amount released by cattle in particular that alone pushes meat emissions up. Also I don't think human rectal emissions based on diet is that significant on the scale of carbon emissions from industry, transport, cattle farming etc.
Veggie burgers are bad for the environment, because they require processing and packaging. It's much better to eat the vegetables and grains directly
Yeah I agree. I mainly shop locally at small independent businesses. I eat some processed food but much of it is from fruit market (local grown for large part) and isn't packaged etc. The reason I said veggie burgers is one of the articles compared veggie burgers to meat ones in assessing carbon footprint.
Veggie burgers don't taste as nice to me. Fair enough there's no gristle and stuff but, in my opinion, you can't beat the flavour of a good burger.
I've never had one to say they are worse than meat. My daughter's grade school has them a couple times a month. Apparently they aren't too bad.
Wasted grain In Washington state, every year, we have tons of grain that go to waste in the east half of the state. I'm not sure what the numbers are these days, but when I was a kid, it was a huge number. I always wondered why we didn't just ship out that grain to places that need it, and the answer, of course, is that it's not good business to do so. Okay, fine. Whatever. But it would also suffice as feed for cattle and pork, at least. While there is at present a political rush against meat in the name of the environment, it's something like trying to put a bandage on your forehead to treat the bullet hole in your leg.
yeah I would agree to that. Most developed countries still waste large stockpiles of many foodstuffs to keep prices high. It's been common practice by many businesses for centuries to do this. Spice traders from 15th century onwards come to mind who used to colonise islands for the spice, create their stockpile and then gather surplus and burn it to maintain their stranglehold. I am sure there are earlier examples and sadly it will continue far into the future.
What in the name of fuck is a veggie burger? I find it amusing how vegetarians claim to eschew meat, yet do everything in their unimpressive power to make veggie-based meals that feel, smell, look, and taste like meat. Even if you're not actually eating authentic meat, you can't help but feel compelled to label the idea of veggie burgers as cheating. Maybe James R can help avert my confusion.
they don't taste like meat Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Burger label can be more to do with shape but as a veggie for ethical reasons I don't see what difference it makes if they are identical in flavour/texture etc. The point is to make something that for people who want meat like substances but don't want it to involve killing an animal to make. So in short it's not cheating since the flavour/texture of meat isn't the problem, it's the killing something to make it that most object to.
Marketing! It's a marketing thing. They're trying to convert omnivores to herbivores. And, yeah, it's really messed up. Er ... yeah, both the concept and the food.
If they made a veggie burger that had all the aesthetic qualities of meat but didn't involve the slaughter of animals then of course I'd eat them. But for me it's just like eating a human. Dead rotten flesh, slaughtered and then squashed and coloured to make it look like it came right off the burger tree.
