Zero Dimension

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by Mickmeister, May 17, 2007.

  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, right...
    :shrug:

    Nothing to do with the topic.

    Really?

    Time isn't a spacial dimension.

    That's one way of looking at it...

    Supposition.

    Er, okaaay.
     
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  3. GeorgePantos Registered Member

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    photon zero dimensions..???

    thinking out loud.. how many dimensions does a photon have..? 4..? 1..? or zero, maybe it has no dimensions and that fact causes it to break or disrupt our 4 dimensional experience/timespace , and thus experience this disturbance calling it a photon.. which requires it to have energy..

    when we destroy mass, we are making a zero dimensionless object.. i.e. nuclear bomb.. E=mc^2.. disruption in space-time..

    another question, a photon imparts no gravity correct..??
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No we aren't.
     
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  7. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Not to be to PC, but it's a "Radix" not just "Point".
     
  8. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Why ask in pseudo-science? I can give you a reply, but it would be my own theory. You should ask in the science forums. I suppose it's because you never seem to get replies off the standard model dwellers.
     
  9. wlminex Banned Banned

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    . . . .Pincho . . . CAREFUL there!! . . . you don't want the MODS to suspect that you are 'self-promoting'!!
     
  10. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    I just meant that the questions are science related... mostly. Nobody can answer in here without using their own theories. So you could end up with 10 different answers.
     
  11. river Valued Senior Member

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    disagree

    give me a zero dimension , is the same as nothing
     
  12. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    I don't understand your reply.
     
  13. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Had to post here as I'm interested in what zero dimension means in scientific terms or whether it has been addressed scientifically at all.



    We might be able to use the term zero dimension for non-dimensional concepts assuming there are any.
     
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  14. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Well, if it's going to be in here, then my reply is this...

    A photon has X/Y/Z coordinates, and time has X/Y/Z coordinates. If a single elementary particle resides in our universe it has relative X/Y/Z coordinates to its centre. If a point exists, it still requires full X/Y/Z coordinates. If the entire universe resides on a point then dimensions are fairly useless to us, we would need to identify location as relative energy r1 r2 r3.. we would not know the difference anyway, apart from action at a distance would be easier to understand. Size is relative so dimensions of size relative to the smallest particle would start on 1, then work forwards, and backwards from there.

    But the universe is in the end an infinite froth, and a lot of it overlaps. Humans are too tidy with their maths. It's a complete mess out there, and it doesn't care that we want figures to work with.
     
  15. wlminex Banned Banned

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    . . .I'd consider a mathematical "point" to perhaps be of zero dimension . . .
     
  16. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Does the mathematical point in the center of axes x,y,z (0,0,0) carry over to physics because otherwise it's a mathematical concept only not a scientific one.
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No it doesn't.
     
  18. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Yeah it does, but most people think of structures, and they should really be thinking in animations. A photon, and time are both animations more than single structures. And a point in our logical universe is actually many points in the next scale down. An x/y/z location in our universe is multiple points in the next universe down which we can't really interact with. It's the scaling that stops for us, but doesn't stop for the universe. We look at a beach, and don't see the sand anymore. A photon pops up from one scale into to our scale, it's like a volcano erupting into a single particle for us to work with, and it starts in a hole. Inside the hole is anti-matter too small for our universe. We don't have senses small enough to read the next scale down. It's quite surprising really that we have senses that can work with the scale of photons. But I can switch the particles up from Quantum Physics to physics by using their animations, and flows. Anti-matter collides, it pops up through a hole, the particle that pops up is a photon, it spreads out into a membrane, that membrane collides with the next membrane, this squeezes the next hole, and anti-matter collides again, and another photon pops up out of a hole, and you get a strobe wave effect. It's like ripples in a pond, so how does a spherical ripple become a wave? Pressure release from final destination steers the pond ripples into linear ripples... waves. So if a pond has a drip of water, the drip is circular because the pressure is equal on all sides. If the pressure were easier in any direction the circles become linear waves. The observer makes a pressure release valve for spherical waves to become linear waves. Focus, I believe is to open a channel to create a pressure release area.
     
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  19. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    The "point" (0,0,0) otherwise called "the origin" is a position vector. It has magnitude 0 and its direction is everywhere, or it points in all directions. In math and physics (0,0,0) is known as the 0-vector.

    It's useful as a reference for other vectors, for instance you know that (3,-2,0) - (0,0,0) has a Euclidean norm, defined the same as the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle, which is the magnitude of (3,-2,0) = (3[sup]2[/sup] + 2[sup]2[/sup] + 0[sup]2[/sup])[sup]1/2[/sup]
     
  20. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    If the origin points in all directions then it's not zero dimension.
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Try reading: it has zero magnitude.
    Which way does a point "point"?
     
  22. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    It's not my own words read the post I replied to.
     
  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    And, one more time. Learn to read.
    A point is zero dimensions, despite pointing in all directions.
     

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