"Youths" riot, loot, burn Paris

Discussion in 'World Events' started by madanthonywayne, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Now you're contradicting your previous statement:

    Or, maybe your qualification "what they can" says it all.

    If so, then we need to ask what these disadvantaged youths can make for themselves, do we not? Which brings us back to my initial statement.

    So, if they can't get the jobs that will allow them to "make what they can for themselves", then what do you suggest they do?

    Or perhaps you're biased against Muslims.
     
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  3. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not convinced that your opinion means more to us than you would have us believe.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Mr. G:

    Since you apparently have nothing to contribute, just stay out of the conversation.
     
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  7. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Or what? You'll throw a bottle of flaming gas my way to demonstrate how your pique is more important to the universe than is my inconvenient chuckle?
     
  8. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Mr. G:
    *chuckle*
     
  9. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    No guts to face Mr. G, heads up, keyboard to keyboard?
     
  10. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    They or their fourfathers, made it to France.

    And what are your qualifications?

    The operative is equality of opportunity.

    Not equality of outcome.

    Out come is based on pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps.



    What evidence do you have that they are qualified to hold a job?

    You have to have skills that are marketable, and in France Throwing Gas Bombs 101, Burning and Looting 101, Murdering Police and Fireman 101, doesn't show skills qualifications to hold a marketable job.


    But do you see poor white people in France Burning, Looting, and Murdering Police and Fireman?, or do you see them get involved with the system, gain job skills, and pull themselves up by their own neck and boot straps.


    No you claim to be the expert.
     
  11. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Buffalo:
    You're a funny fellow, but sometimes you hit the nail right on the head. If 'socioeconomic status' was the underlying reason for these riots, then one would expect to see poor whites rioting as well.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The poor white people already had their revolution, when they were discriminated against. Lots of heads rolled, if I recall.
     
  13. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't appear so.

    Should I have chosen different terms?

    That would be the same as asking what anyone can make for themselves in a democratic society.

    Again, that would be the same as asking what anyone can make for themselves.

    From a religious viewpoint, I'm biased against cults like Islam, or any other cult. I don't think that's a secret.

    The problem here James, is that you and others are asserting that the government should step in and solve the problems of those youths, thus welcoming a socialist government. Which do you prefer?
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    And just what does the French Revolution have to do with the present day Moslem riots?

    Napoleon in long dead, the Third French Republic is no longer the Government of France, and the same reasoning still applies:

    To get ahead, you have to have a education, or be willing to work your ass off, and in the real world both, sitting in the Mosque, dreaming of the Glory of Martyrdom, and how you are owed a life because you are a Moslem, Gods Chosen, get you nothing, Arson 101, Pillage 101, Murder 101, Riot 101, get you nothing, it put no money in your pocket, and running around with a chip on your shoulder makes it impossible to get a job.

    SpAM, look up the movie The Pursuit of Happiness, and watch it, that is how you get a Job, it is a true story of Christopher Paul Gardner, his name should be recognizable.
     
  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Face him about what? He adds no content. There's nothing to debate. He only posts to make repetitive innane remarks about how nobody's opinion but his own counts for anything.

    I read multiple news sources and analyses. And you?

    Precisely. How do you propose these people go about getting marketable skills, when the opportunities to do so are largely closed to them?

    Both. France has quite a history of demonstrations and violence, by both white and black people.

    Only in relative terms. Most people here are just talking of the tops of their heads. The level of assumption is what I think demands a response.

    Yes, and they do.

    Do you agree that well off and middle-class people in a democracy tend to have more opportunities than poor people?

    Yes or no?

    I'm suggesting that the government should not give benefits to the middle classes while ignoring the needs of the poor, as there is some evidence that it has been doing.
     
  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe Shariat Laws are needs for people of certain beleifs?

    Ever think of that????
     
  17. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    "Ever think of that????"

    No, I haven't.

    My God, first we had the "Arms Race", and now the "Great Shariat Race"- All them swarthy Muzlimz are gonna rush to see who can be the fundiest! What to do, but kill them all?

    (that's pretty fundy too)
     
  18. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Well it could be that such is the case. For example, if you are a dictator then you wouldn't want a religion that promotes democracy and if you were stuck with one that promotes democracy then you'd want to have some sort of counter religous Law that prevents the people from overthrowing their dictator.


    I don't see the connection between the arms race and the great shariat race? Is it a play on the word Chariot???

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  19. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    is est. Yee Haw.
     
  20. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    S.A.M:
    Buffalo has already addressed your attempt to shit all over this thread like a toddler which hasn't been potty trained, so I won't deign to answer your irrelevancy a second time. That would be twice too much.

    So the recent riots in Paris had equal proportions of poor black Muslims and poor white non-Muslims participating? Again, if race and culture have nothing to do with the riots, why are only poor black and Middle-Eastern Muslims rioting?

    Well James, they could get an education. I find it hard to believe that education is difficult to afford in a socialist paradise like France. But even if you do have to pay a sizable sum, so what? Poor whites in Australia are forced to work part time, while studying full time. They may spend years paying off their HECS debts.

    Or, if they can't afford education, they could find employment in jobs which require little education, and then save their earnings so that their children can afford an education. That's what both my recent maternal and paternal ancestors did. Is that solution too good for the Muslims, whose shit does not stink? Why must we pamper someone simply because their skin is black, and they follow some antiquated religious bullshit?

    You're just making fucking excuses, like you always do, for the bad behaviour of minorities.
     
  21. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    michael: "I don't see the connection between the arms race and the great shariat race?"

    In the USA, we have our own sharia on the march: We've undergone a more rapid and profound hardening of attitude, and tarnishing of image, than has any Mideastern nation. But moderates haven't fully found their voices against the global resonance of competitive narrow-mindednes yet. I remain optimistic that the aftermath of these orgies of destructive emotion will lead to more constructive awareness, all over the world in future.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sarkozy betrays a recognition of the problem, but how soon he implements proposed changes remains to be seen

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/02/opinion/edfrance.php
     
  23. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    SpAM, you exhibit the recognition problem, the problem is the entitlement mentality of Islam, that because they are the supposed chosen of Allah they are entitled to every body else's hard earned success, as Mountain pointed out;

    and I would add get a job, any job, get a work record showing that you are reliable, show up for work, do what is ask of you by the job and a lot more, and once you have a employment record, other opportunities will open up to you, unless you start your own Business you don't start at the top, end either way wether you start your own Business, or work for some one else you start at the bottom and work your way else's, the only difference is as a Business owner you have a better job Title.
     

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