Your reasons for being athiest or christian etc...?

When I accepted Jesus, it was with the realization and acceptance that I would never date this guy again. This was only a catalyst to accept Jesus, not because I was attracted to someone. My whole testimony is my journey towards God, and how my life changed afterwards.

 

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Chris, where does logic 'physically' exist? It is pure abstract. So where does it exist? What about reason?

Where does magnetism exist? It is intangible isn't it?

 

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Wes,

These are all thoughts arising from the physical structures and networks in the brain.

If someone does not understand ‘logic’ I can communicate that information so they can generate their own neural patterns and then we can share the same thoughts.

The electromagnetic force is one of the currently known four basic forces that help form the structure of the physical universe, along with gravity, weak nuclear, and strong nuclear. All these forces are very tangible, although we cannot directly perceive them with our limited senses.

 

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Sweet thanks for all the replies they were all very interesting.

I'll just answer (as I do

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) a couple of questions I was asked.

Stretched wrote to me: How did you test the truth of the Bible and the truth in Christians, so that you are entirely convinced that there are no lies?

In many many ways. Tested the truth of the Bible by reading it, by reading about it, by reading books against it, by reading books for it, and lastly by living it. I tested the truth of Christians by simply getting to know them, not just the happy happy face they for some strange reason portray to people around them.

Stretched also wrote: What is your definition of "New Age Beliefs"?

I could go upstairs and find about 20 definitions for you, but it's easier for the both of us if I just give you an example.

'Yes' wrote in this post: I believe that everything is energy and that everything has a consciousness. Not a human comsciousness, but a consciousness related to the particular existence. I don't rule out an existence of a God, or a higher/collective consciousness that holds all the other ones toghether. I don't have a name for my belief, but have come to this perception by meditating, thinking, feeling, investigating..well, living basically. It's the conclusion I can draw from my expereinces in this life as the form I am in.

That is pretty much spot on New Age belief. If you want to read a book on this and not be bored I recommend This Present Darkness By Frank Peretti, it's fiction but based on the belief held by New Agers and Christians, so it's both informative and enjoyable. If you want to be serious about investigating the belief, I recommend Ankerberg's books on the subject. I read one which only had a chapter on the subject of New Age, but I have seen an entire book of his devoted to the subject, very comprehensive, something like 600 pages, and new as well. lol I've read a book on the New Age which was 12 years old, the age wasn't quite new in that book

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And also Anderberg's books are very reasonably priced, I got mine on special for $5 - I think they made a mistake with the pricing but it's all good. But everywhere else I've seen them for around $20 which is still very good.

Hope that helped at least a little.

CyA's

 

Pardon me for contradicting your statement, but it sounds to me like you are most against the beliefs of witchcraft, which is apparently the "true evil" with which the New Agers are merely flirting. At least, that's how your statement comes across to me - but please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Okay, this is how I see it. Witch craft is evil, you ask a little kid if witch craft is evil, they'll say yes, unless they are harry potter

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Now because Witch Craft is so obvously evil, many reject it. But it is when it is hidden in seemingly peaceful beliefs such as the New Age, that Witch Craft is truly a threat. That's why I hate the New Age the most.

Hope that makes sense.

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CyA

 

First of all, 9 million is not even close to the slaughter of 50 Jews.

Wicca is an old english word for witch, which probably comes from the word wizzard.

Let's see, I suspect that greater percentage of the so-called witches were not witches but were people who belonged into a mental institution.

Reminds me of that song, "bring me back some old time religion" or something like that.

Wicca isn't a religion persay but a collection varying polytheist religions. In that respect; yes, there were polytheists before christianity. Nevertheless, modern Wiccan's have deluded their religion often times combining the worship of christian angels, roman mythology, and celtic believes. No tradition or legacy of wiccan's can be found. It is just a bunch of people worshiping that which is not God. All to often this leads to true Satanism or black witchcraft.

 

Hey don't knock witches. Charmed is my favorite TV program and I like the illusion of witches being good.

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I did look it up and that is what Webster says.

Yes, m*w I already know that I'm crazy. I did not mean that in a degoratory fashion. Just that what we now would call outsiders might have been considered witches.

You have no evidence of this. On the contrary, the only early monotheists on record are the Jews and Atekenaton. Either wiccans worship one God and are monotheist or they are polytheists or atheists.

We expect more evidence than "seen them at a book store".

There called typos? Often times I type fast without proofreading what I say. But while my spelling is not that good, be sure I can spell belief right.

 

At least the mystery of where you've been getting your information has finally been cleared up. Thanks.

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The learned opinions of brainwashed Christian children aside, why do you think witchcraft is evil?

As MW already pointed out, no - this doesn't make any sense. First of all, you've failed to prove that witchcraft is evil. You don't even seem to understand your own aversion to it and point to small children as your reference. Why don't you ask them what they think about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the monster hiding in their closet while you're at it?

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So just what is it about natural methods of healing and pain relief, or even nature worship or honoring the Feminine Divine that frightens you so much? Maybe you should read a bit more about witchcraft before you judge it so harshly. If you want to learn more, there are some great books on the subject, but in my opinion, the best introduction to the basics of witchcraft is "Positive Magic: Occult Self-Help," by Marion Weinstein.

There are also websites galore that can help you in this regard, but here are a couple of articles from two of my personal favorites:

Witchcraft FAQ

The Wiccan Rede

Once you actually have some idea of what you're talking about, please let me know whether or not you still feel witchcraft is evil and why.

 

It is mistranslation. The hebrew word is for "reed" and not "red".

Because the worst criminal cannot truely repent. He has blaphemed the holy Spirit and he has no guide to lead him to repentance.

Yes, but Jesus practically said everything that could be possibly say about hypocrisy. It's not a part of christiantiy but a part of man's sinful nature.

This is christian doctrin, Jesus said not to judge, but few follow it. We are certainly allowed to judge what actions are wrong, correct?

 

Eastern philosophy has nothing to do with witchcraft. Why would you say that? Taoism and Buddhism are noble and enlightened teachings, thousand of years older than jesus, that spread peace and understanding. How many innocent, sick or mentally ill people were wrongly tortured and burned alive in the name of christianity?

 

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but its true!

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it would be funny if it wasnt so sad,
tell me this if prayer works why do we need doctors,hospitals and modern medicine?
if god is all knowing,why pray to him at all,he would know all your thoughts and wishes,wouldnt he?
bible is a book writen by humans,very primitive ones at that,who at that time didnt have a clue what makes the world turn so they invented some imaginary skydady,how can anyone believe those fairy tales in these modern times is beyond my understanding.
its so full of contradictions its obvious you never read all of it.
explain these if you would www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

 

this person in the medical field who also happens to be born again knows that God heals just as readily through our modern medicine as He does without it. You could just as easily say why bother working since God can give us what we need. But this isnt about God giving us everything like pampered spoiled children, it is abotu us learning how to connect with God. This is also why we need prayer. He already knows our needs and our prayers, but through prayer we come closer to God and are able to hear His desires in our lives.


As far as that skeptics bible, too funny, clearly these are taken out of context with twisted meanings. Chose things in there and I will undertake in my limited time to explain to you. I just dont have the time to tackle every part of it at the moment.

 

Okay, I think I musn't have written correctly regarding my reference to witch craft. I have only read about New Age, not Witch craft. The only knowledge I have about witch craft is from witches that I knew at school. One was talking to me about being a witch after she stopped being one. She said that she used to do spells and everything, until she started hearing voices in her head, and then she quite because she was freaked out. Since then the voices have stopped. Another witch I didn't know personally, I knew of her through my pretty much best friend for five years all through high school. He told me nothing much happened with her witch craft, except that one time when she was offering up a hate letter to the fairies (lol she was pretty funny apparantly) the corner of the letter caught on fire. My view of witch craft or whatever I have just descibed, is that they contact and use the power of demons. I say that this is similar to New Age, because they do channeling, I believe the power channeled comes from demons. My friend I mentioned just before, used to be into all that spiritualist stuff. He used to see peoples auras and be able to interpret them (just people walking down the street etc) he could see gosts etc... Not going to go into detail as most of you people don't know the guy like I do, and probably would just think his insane. But anyway, I guess I'm just judging witch craft from the people I know who have called themselves witches, were they lying to me? Were they something different?

Anyway CyA's