Your ideal socio-economic system?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Facial, Sep 27, 2005.

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Which do you prefer?

  1. Capitalism

    14 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Socialism

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. Communism

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Satyr Banned Banned

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    My ideal system:

    Anarchy…with a heavy dose of Satyr worship and general foolishness.
     
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  3. naciketa Registered Member

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    yes,
    if try know about prout prout, the only economic solution for world problems.
     
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  5. naciketa Registered Member

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  7. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    clearly capitalism stimulates and propagates intelligence, just what we need to breed future generations of ourselves on earth. Cummunism breeds lazy and unimaginative children. You be the judge. The best idea is what I call "cummunist capitalism" if you will. We simply establish quotas as per how much money an individual or corporation can have at any given time, all exesses will then be reinvested into the society. Its madness to believe that in this day and age one man can have in exess of 20,000,000USD in assests while another barely eats everyday;reminiscent of the days of the king and the pauper. Also this makes people happier and better at what they do and it won't be all about the money as much anymore. Who would have thought, an extreme version of capitalism and cummunism just by combining them together.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Actually, american capitalist children are lazy fat and unimaginative.
     
  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    That's true. But then many of them grow up to become something else.

    Baron Max
     
  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Are you now just doing some wishful thinking? Or do you honestly believe that?
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, I believe that ....in spite of their earlier, liberal, doo-gooder, bleeding heart actions and learning, some children today will grow up to be the great leaders of great corporations and of government. At some point, some of those kids will realize the difference between reality and fantasy/idealism. After that, they'll do well.

    Baron Max
     
  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Well, I don't believe that line of propaganda.
     
  13. Fukushi -meta consciousness- Registered Senior Member

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    I think they intend to influence reality by going by it in a self-fullfilling-prophecy manner, because their GREAT coörporations and goverment will realise that the difference between their fantasies and idealism and on the other hand REALITY, is that they can't keep people feeding propaganda and at the same line proclaim to do justice to them. Because the people WILL react to that,...

    I react, that's for shure,...and if my kids come across your kids Baron Max,... I'll be shure to have told them the stupid archaic hiërarchic Idears that bear down on the people from history,...and not to uphold this stupid/idiot system of classes and even to revolt against it and not respect it as such!

    Even if the 'new' absolutists and/or despotists are AND I QUOTE: 'leaders of great coöperations and goverment' (politicians)

    Han seifu undo, shin kata ganai!!!!
     
  14. nicholas1M7 Banned Banned

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    I think capitalism is excellent for a country as a whole. But then, because of the flaws inherent in our nature, there will be certain mentalities that must be prevented from spreading in disease fashion if all of society's citizens are to be given an ethical and just existence. The disadvantaged will be preyed upon inevitably without control. Hence, the ideals of communism sets a standard in everyone that brings them, not by force, but by social inclination, to a greater awareness of one another. On the other hand, that divided mind that gives rise to individual competition in the market and the desire for improvement might be lacking. Perhaps if people understood what it is like to live in both societies, they can realize those ideals without sacrificing their classical romantic natures. After all, was it not that very nature which led Marx and Engels to conceive of the communist manifesto?
     
  15. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    But Nicholas, if individuals have a hand in the economy at all you already have defacto capitalism then and there. Even in a totally communist society, capitalism pops up almost instantly in the form of a black market, bribery, and general corruption. It just isn't official capitalism. And even in a totally capitalist society, the government inevitably has to take up a socialist role in one place or another. A nation can't keep a complex physical and social infrastructure going without government intervention and planning. Without government management, the most ruthless of corperations basically become the equivalent of feudal warlords and become governments unto themselves. While countries do fall to one side or the other of the middlepoint, the communism and capitalism are inseperably blurred.

    I figure that we should just chuck the two concepts out the window, forgetting even their names completely, and just play things by ear on a case by case basis. Philosophers be damned.
     

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