You should stop getting your information from movies and cartoons

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  1. Enmos Staff Member

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    You should stop getting your info from cartoons and movies.

    Moderator note: Posts 1-3 split from Frankenstein complex thread to avoid derailment. This could be an interesting discussion in itself
     
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  3. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Why? It's a common reference quite many people can relate to. I see many cartoons and such, even how to play levels of video games, all over YouTube.

    Books may be a better source of info in general. TV is too much about entertainment, and not enough about the "work" of education. The world's smartest people don't make movies, they write books. But if I was to make more references to books, BTW I do read quite a lot, more people would say, Huh? Never having even heard of that particular book. And will they go buy the book, just because I recommended or referenced it?

    Movies and cartoons actually do have quite many useful ideas about how the future might be like.
     
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  5. Enmos Staff Member

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    You're better off stating real life facts than referencing film and cartoons, or any other work of fiction.
     
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  7. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I haven't read the other thread (yet?). Nothing wrong with using movies, stories, etc to help get across an idea.
    People do get much misinformation that way tho.
    1 example is the "discussion" of cloning in another thread.
    I love science fiction but sometimes it's absurd.
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  8. Enmos Staff Member

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    People state things they've seen in movies and cartoons as facts here. Luckily Pronatalist usually says where he got it from (The Flintstones, The Jetsons, etc.)

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  9. Betrayer0fHope MY COHERENCE! IT'S GOING AWAYY Registered Senior Member

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    As Rand in the Wheel of Time displayed, being a copy is not always bad, because he will presumably end up saving the world from destruction.
     
  10. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    Prosecutors and judges despise the TV show CSI and their ilk because of the false expectations these shows set in the minds of jurors. In a similar vein, Buzz Aldrin recently lashed out at science fiction writers for the public's lack of interest in real space exploration, as compared to the Star Trek variety.

    Some reading:

    The CSI Effect: Fact or Fiction http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/02/thomas.html
    On television, if the CSI people do their job right, the jurors will have little choice but to convict. In real life, the false expectation of plentiful scientific evidence can create a bias in the jury if this issue is not properly addressed at trial. The investigative techniques portrayed on CSI are not always available or even reasonable. Yet almost eight out of ten Maricopa County prosecutors believe that jurors are disappointed in the lack of forensic evidence presented at trial.​

    ldrin Slams SF's Effect On Space
    http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=57491
    "I blame the fantastic and unbelievable shows about space flight and rocket ships that are on today," Aldrin said in an interview during an ice cream party held by the National Geographic Channel at the Television Critics Association press tour in Beverly Hills, Calif., this week. "All the shows where they beam people around and things like that have made young people think that that is what the space program should be doing. It's not realistic."​




    Then there's that incredibly goofy show, Numb3rs. That it actually won the Carl Sagan Award for Public Understanding of Science speaks volumes of the quality of movies, cartoons, and TV shows that depict scientists, mathematicians, and engineers in real life.
     
  11. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What about the people that get their news from The Colbert Report or the The Daily Show?
     
  12. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    We should START with getting all our news from cartoons. I think the evening news should be done in cartoon form. It would make it all nicer to watch.
     
  13. psikeyhackr Valued Senior Member

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    You mean I should read Harry Potter books instead of watching Harry Potter movies?

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  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    CSI & such should be more realistic in what they can & cannot do & what conclusions should come from it unless there's an intentional science fiction element. But people who don't realize those shows are fiction & can't be relied on to be completely accurate shouldn't be on a jury. Police, prosecutors & testifying experts also do much harm by giving the intentional impression that crime investigation is infallible.
    Aldrin is full of it. Star Trek doesn't make anyone think anything. Such shows & books have inspired many to study science.
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