You must read Yi Ching--Book of change,to get to know about eastern philosophy

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  1. yi ching master Registered Member

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    Yi Ching is a book you must read to get to know eastern philosophy.
     
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  3. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    The Yi Jing or I Ching

    "A Chinese book of ancient origin consisting of 64 interrelated
    hexagrams along with commentaries attributed to Confucius.
    The hexagrams, originally used for divination, embody Taoist
    philosophy by describing all nature and human endeavor in
    terms of the interaction of yin and yang. Also called Book of
    Changes." -Dictionary.com

    The I Ching on the Net
     
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  5. Allahs_Mathematics Mar'Ifah Ahl As-Suffah Registered Senior Member

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  7. Weiser_Dub Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed.
    But if you want to make such declarative short-sighted statements, then "You must talk to the Dalai Lama to learn Buddhism." :bugeye:
     
  8. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    to get to know about eastern philosophy

    to get to know about eastern philosophy :

    You must stop reading.
     
  9. spookz Banned Banned

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    ahh you gotta start somewhere fella
     
  10. Xenu BBS Whore Registered Senior Member

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    You must eat 3 live spiders to learn buddhism.
     
  11. kmguru Staff Member

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    stuff to read:

    Indian and Chinese thought also divide in their use of logic, one of the most highly esteemed tools of philosophy in the West. Despite the intensity of popular, fundamentalist religious practices, major Indian thinkers did not consider sacred scriptures, sutras by famous men and traditions a reliable source of truth. Hsuan-tsang introduced one of the later schools of Indian logical thought (new Hetu-vidya) into China. This school accepted reason alone as the only authority, and acknowledged only the processes of inference (anumana ) and sense (pratyaksa ) as the basis for forming knowledge.5 However, this approach did not take root in China because of the high regard its thinkers had for traditional knowledge and known authorities.

    The differences between Indian and Chinese culture and methods of thinking and communicating also extend to visual symbols. In Indian and Greek thought, the sphere--a three-dimensional embodiment of harmony--was the preferred symbol for the perfect expression of reality.6 According to Vaisesika philosophy, the building blocks of the universe ("atoms") were believed to be globular. Indian thinkers also considered the wheel to be a symbol of perfect reality, which accounts for the creation of huge stone juggernauts rolled ominously and symbolically through villages and cities. Here, the idea of motion was inherent in the symbolism of the wheel. Life was a wheel, in a sense, as human life rolls from birth to death to rebirth over countless incarnations.

    Chinese thinkers, however, once again revealed a different dimensionality in their thought processes. While the Indian symbol of perfect reality is three-dimensional and kinetic, the Chinese symbol, the circle, appears flat and stationary to the casual observer. Once Buddhism was imported into sections of China, the famous oxherding pictures developed, symbolizing man's evolution from unenlightened being (the farmer who does not have his ox) to the enlightened sage (man who has successfully searched for and found his ox). In this series of pictures, a circle is the final image, signifying perfect emptiness (not in the Western sense of barrenness, but rather to suggest ineffability). The circle appears throughout Chinese culture in many important contexts, such as the unit of the yin/yang icon.

    Another difference in graphic expression of intellectual concepts lies in the realm of didactic diagrams. With a subtle Sanskrit vocabulary deftly dealing with abstractions, India had no need of the precise, particular visual aids which Chinese thinkers used to communicate ideas. Chinese thinkers traditionally relied on diagrams to both express and teach, such as the use of the circle of eight trigrams which form the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching (a Taoist sourcebook which has absorbed the attention of Chinese thinkers through the present day, and was adapted to a Buddhist interpretation shortly after the new philosophy penetrated China). Other examples of the use of didactic diagrams and illustrations are the Zen ox-herding pictures and the use of white and black-filled circles (and a complex network of interconnecting symbols and ideographs) to describe polarities in the philosophical writings of Feng-kuei Tsung-mi (780-841), a scholar who attempted to explain what he saw as the relationships between pure and impure mind (cited by Nakamura).

    All of this points to the importance of concrete examples, particularity and individualism in Chinese thought and culture, as contrasted with the Indian model. This is important in our consideration of the way Buddhism changed Chinese thought, but also in the way that Chinese interpretation of Buddhist ideas and symbols changed some of the concepts of Buddhism.

    more at: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...oken.SearchID=From%20India%20to%20China&e=747
     
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    can you make a few distinctions b/w indian vs western logic? they are quite different in form yes? no? indian being not that well developed? or perhaps the emphasis is on .....?
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    If one defines Logic as "The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning."

    I do not think there should be any difference between Eastern and Western logic any more that two plus two is four. What is different is the assumptions from point A to B and given properties of any parameters.

    Thought processes are based on a fractal view of the social culture at that time. The meanings change as society moves on along the timeline. But if one does an "ab initio" operation, the meanings should be the same provided we are all humans and interact with each other in the interim.
     
  14. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Re: to get to know about eastern philosophy

    *kowtow*
     
  15. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    You know you're right. He should have said:

    To learn about eastern philosophy - you must start reading.

    To know eastern philosophy - you must stop reading.

    Did you SEE how I rephrased the SHIT out of that thing?????????????? DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    pardon
     
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  17. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    You have achieved the last goal of eastern philosophy, to see anything in everything !

    If you feel 'that book' is the one which represents Eastern Philosophy, then you are in a stage of 'one with the universe' = Aham Brahmasmi

    As ordinary human beings, who are alive with you in the same Brahmam (Universe), we are not yet grown to the stage of accepting the statement !

    Haa Kashtam ("So sad" in Sanskrit)

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  18. DJSupreme23 neocortex activated Registered Senior Member

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    Dont just do something! Sit there!
     
  19. DJSupreme23 neocortex activated Registered Senior Member

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    heavens, you're a genius... I bow before thee

    *kowtow*, thrice
     
  20. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Seems to me that 'eastern philosophy' is just western metaphysics in disguise. In the west we can't answer metaphysical questions because of our assumptions. In the east, for those who see anyway, they are solved.

    You can read the Yi Ching or Betrand Russell. You end up in the same place. It's not like eastern cosmologies only apply in the east and aren't true elsewhere. Logic is logic, as kmguru said.
     
  21. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    It's weird cuz everytime I get a compliment there's this weird smell that reminds me of a farm or a toilet or something. Hmm..

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    Hehe.
     

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